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Thanks for the update Derek!

I am assuming this is the 2017 signature catalog being referred to.  If memory serves me correctly, Lionel's 2016 Signature (V1) catalog dropped around The first week of February.

I think this catalog will have a few high end locomotives, but probably 1/2 the amount of what we saw from the 2016 V1. I imagine there will be a focus on add on cars, accessories etc. This is purely speculation on my part. 

Also to answer another poster's comment - MTH is the one who releases their catalogs to coincide with the York TCA Shows.

 

 

Did anyone order anything out of the last catalog? I remember the K4 locomotives with the long haul tenders... The NW2's... got my sound cars... but the rest was a blur.

I am still waiting on my U.P. Passenger Excursion cars, from what I hear, they are going to be worth the wait!

The T-1 and GS4 rocked me to the core... and I am still holding back, sure would like one of each of those.

Not ready for a NEW catalog...

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"Here's hoping for a Western Maryland 4-8-4."

No - a big, fat WM 2-10-0 (which I am still surprised that Mr. MTH has not offered, as he is in Maryland, and has offered that nice - and accurate - WM 4-6-6-4 and big 2-8-0).

But, as always, a NYC K-5 4-6-2 and a NYC H-10 2-8-2; an L&N Berkshire (not an L&N "paint job")...yeah, that'll get my money.

D500 posted:

"Here's hoping for a Western Maryland 4-8-4."

No - a big, fat WM 2-10-0 (which I am still surprised that Mr. MTH has not offered, as he is in Maryland, and has offered that nice - and accurate - WM 4-6-6-4 and big 2-8-0).

But, as always, a NYC K-5 4-6-2 and a NYC H-10 2-8-2; an L&N Berkshire (not an L&N "paint job")...yeah, that'll get my money.

In MTH's defense, they did produce a Western Maryland 2-10-0, it just wasn't the "big and fat" 2-10-0.

J Daddy posted:

Did anyone order anything out of the last catalog? I remember the K4 locomotives with the long haul tenders... The NW2's... got my sound cars... but the rest was a blur.

I am still waiting on my U.P. Passenger Excursion cars, from what I hear, they are going to be worth the wait!

The T-1 and GS4 rocked me to the core... and I am still holding back, sure would like one of each of those.

Not ready for a NEW catalog...

My feelings exactly.  The only relief (if you can call it that) is most of the expensive stuff catalog'd in 2017 Volume 1 won't arrive until November/December 2017.    So folks will have all year to save up!!! 

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SGP posted:
D500 posted:

"Here's hoping for a Western Maryland 4-8-4."

No - a big, fat WM 2-10-0 (which I am still surprised that Mr. MTH has not offered, as he is in Maryland, and has offered that nice - and accurate - WM 4-6-6-4 and big 2-8-0).

But, as always, a NYC K-5 4-6-2 and a NYC H-10 2-8-2; an L&N Berkshire (not an L&N "paint job")...yeah, that'll get my money.

In MTH's defense, they did produce a Western Maryland 2-10-0, it just wasn't the "big and fat" 2-10-0.

Why not a WM K2 Pacific? Its only over in Hagerstown for crying out loud. 

M J Breen posted:
... I think this catalog will have a few high end locomotives, but probably 1/2 the amount of what we saw from the 2016 V1. I imagine there will be a focus on add on cars, accessories etc. This is purely speculation on my part. 

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Wouldn't surprise me in the least if that were true.  2016 V1 was brutal with end-of-year deliveries... not only with raw price increases, but also the sheer number of products at those nose-bleed prices.  It'll be interesting to see how long dealers continue having sales to move their BTO extra's like  ESE Hudsons, GS-4's, Alleghenies, T-1's, Heislers, and Vision Line GG-1's.

If Lionel were smart, they'd leak some of the new 2017 passenger car info to help move the last of these steamers out of dealer inventory.  I've already told one dealer I'll buy a Chessie T-1, if Lionel announces the Chessie Steam Special heavyweight passenger cars (18" cars would be fine) in the 2017 Signature Catalog.

Aside from that, a few 2016 carry-overs, and perhaps an AFT auxiliary tender (if one gets announced in 2017), I think I'll be on a severe austerity program this year for new roster additions.  Big plans in 2017 for that nice dream-layout, finally!!!

David

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I am very curious as well as to what they plan on putting out. It seems that everything comes in cycles when it comes to their build scheme. What was old is new again, something that they may have made 5 years ago might come back, or even something from 2 years ago. It would be most interesting to see something that perhaps has not been done in a very long time, or to scale, or even never done. Of course that is a big open window of possibilities. What has never been done in O Scale? One thing I am sure that some would say that Lionel should try and do is some European locomotives. I remember suggesting way back in the Century Club days of doing a Mallard, or something up that alley. What more famous engines have not been yet made that have been overshadowed by Big Boys, Northerns, Pacifics, and of course Hudsons? It would be something else for them to try hitting the European Locos and see if they could even come close to matching MTH's breathtaking Europeans's(I don't have any, but have been stunned by how great they look).

Whatever does come out in the catalog, I will most likely have my eyes peeled for steamers that I don't have for the NYC or PRR. Of course, it would have to be something I am interested in as well. Wonder if they will update the Dreyfuss Hudson or take a vacation from Hudson's for a year or three?

Bill S. posted:

Don't hold your breath for a World Series Champion boxcar, I read here a while back the MLB license had expired and will not be renewed.   

FWIW, I heard that MLB got $12 per car when a LHS did a custom-run of cars at $85 each.  Not a bad take for just sitting back and raking in the dough just to have the MLB logo on the car.  But that's what licensing fees are all about!  Interesting that the license won't be renewed.  Everything in life is negotiable though. 

David

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Rocky Mountaineer posted:

Interesting... I just noticed Legacy Station's website home-page says, "Lionel 2017 Ready-To-Run and 2017 Christmas Catalogs Coming Soon".  No mention of a Signature Catalog though. 

Weren't they staggered by maybe a week last year as well?  I seem to recall RTR and Christmas out before Signature.

-Dave

J Daddy posted:

Did anyone order anything out of the last catalog? I remember the K4 locomotives with the long haul tenders... The NW2's... got my sound cars... but the rest was a blur.

 

I ordered the Milwaukee Road NW2. Because of this, I probably won't get anything from this catalog--maybe a piece of rolling stock if anything. Having said this, I can't wait for the new catalog! It never hurts to look, right?

I know that modern trains are more fabulous than ever and that this is the "golden age" of model railroading (not just O gauge), but the new catalogs have far too much vaporware.  I still prefer the time when dad and I could go to the Gilbert Hall of Science and the Lionel showroom, pick up our copies of the latest Flyer and Lionel catalogs and have almost everything in each of them be available for immediate purchase.  No "pre-order" bs.

Pete

Texas Pete posted:

...  I still prefer the time when dad and I could go to the Gilbert Hall of Science and the Lionel showroom, pick up our copies of the latest Flyer and Lionel catalogs and have almost everything in each of them be available for immediate purchase.  No "pre-order" bs.

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Very much agree!  But I think you're describing a scenario on the exact opposite end of the scale from which we find ourselves today.   

David

Texas Pete posted:

I know that modern trains are more fabulous than ever and that this is the "golden age" of model railroading (not just O gauge), but the new catalogs have far too much vaporware.  I still prefer the time when dad and I could go to the Gilbert Hall of Science and the Lionel showroom, pick up our copies of the latest Flyer and Lionel catalogs and have almost everything in each of them be available for immediate purchase.  No "pre-order" bs.

Pete

It's pretty much the way of the world now.  Even the HO and N guys have to preorder nowadays.  The only real difference is, dealers are more willing to order for stock HO and N as the customer base is larger.

Rusty

I'm hoping for the following:

  • Southern LEGACY Mikados 4501 from 1992/1999 tooling (please be sure to give it 4-wheel tender trucks)
  • TVRM excursion consist for the Southern Mikes
  • N&W A Class engines from scale tooling
  • N&W Auxiliary tenders LEGACY in the following paint schemes: 2 N&W Black, N&W Stripe, NS Tuscan Red, Black Unlettered, and possibly Southern Green, & Southern Black

 

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