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White Spots on Lioonel 6017 Caboose

brienbrienOGR Forum Member

HI Gang;

 

Once again, I find myself turning to the experts here.  I have a Lionel 6017 B&M Blue Caboose that has mysterious white spots mostly on the top. At first glance I thought them to perhaps be "lime spots" or some kind of mildew.  But upon close inspection, they are very light and certainly stick to the paint without being raised from the surface.

 

Does anyone have any experience with a type of mysterious white spots on the surface of a plastic Lionel car? And, if you have, were you successful in removing them.  What did you use? 

 

I have tried a few things:  lime remover like CLR diluted into water, pinesol, endust, windex, and a diluted bleach based bathroom cleaner.  I have always tried them first underneath the step to see it it would ruin the paint, but nothing seems to want to solve the problem.

 

You can see it here. It is the second to the last photo in the lower group.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 

 

Brien

 

 

 

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rlplionelrlplionelOGR Forum Member

The spots in the auction photo look like paint spatter. If so, there's probably not much you can do short of seeing if they'll come off by scratching them with a fingernail.

 

To completely rule out the possibility that the spots are mildew, apply a little Crisco vegetable oil, then wipe it off, to see if the spots disappear.

brienbrienOGR Forum Member
These spots are even on the blue paint  If it was snow, it was a long time ago and likely scraped off back then as well  This could be the residue.   Thanks  BK
 
 
Originally Posted by RJL:

Years ago we used to spray artificial snow on our Christmas tree and while the trains were already set up under the tree and the trains would get the snow spay on them.

We got the spray off of the affected trains easily, as the spray was still fresh.

Ralph

 

RRDOCRRDOCOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER

These are probably a chemical in the plastic that leeches out over time.   Try this trick:

Heat the car roof with a hair dryer.  In about 30 seconds or so the chemical goes back into solution and disappears.  It is pretty much Magic!  Cures the problem for another 30 years.

Bob

brienbrienOGR Forum Member
Sorry to say no dice again.  All it did was heat up the surface of the car.
 
Originally Posted by RRDOC:

These are probably a chemical in the plastic that leeches out over time.   Try this trick:

Heat the car roof with a hair dryer.  In about 30 seconds or so the chemical goes back into solution and disappears.  It is pretty much Magic!  Cures the problem for another 30 years.

Bob

 

brienbrienOGR Forum Member
 
It's an odd thing because we did get some to fade to very faint.  Others were somewhat removed with a fingernail and dish detergent.  But it isn't happening very easily and I am concerned about wearing off the paint as it did on a very tiny part on the side of the catwalk.  So I am hesitant to continue this method.  Going to try Dawn and see what happens.
Originally Posted by C W Burfle:

I am sorry to say that it looks to me like something was accidentally sprayed on the roof, and bleached out the color in those spots.

I hope I am mistaken.

 

brienbrienOGR Forum Member
I would tend to agree with you but we worked in some dish detergent and my wife used her fingernail to remove some spots.  Others faded.  The problem we ran into was, that after too much work on them, we tended to, at times scrape down to the base black paint.  We have to be gentle yet firm and there is apparently a fine line between the two. 
 
I am simply going to replace the car in the set with another of fine quality.  I replaced the airplane flat car that had a broken step, so all I have to do is replace this caboose to make the Set #1615 a excellent one.
 
 
Originally Posted by yamaha226:

I am with CW on this one. Looks like something was sprayed on the paint and bleached it.

 

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