HAS anybody got the Williams Scale Bicentenial GG1? comments?
Al W.
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HAS anybody got the Williams Scale Bicentenial GG1? comments?
Al W.
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I hgve a couple of scale Williams GG1's now 15 years old. They run like champs or charms. One converted to TMCC.
My real question relates to the graphics and finish of the Bicentenial version..
Al W.
I have 8 of them the last one I got was the Bicentenial one. It is very well done as are all of them. I got it off the bay for $245.
The Williams G Motor is a huge bang for the buck. I have a large G fleet and several are Williams converted to DCS. They can usually be picked up new for about $240.00 at York They convert to DCS very easy. I double head them with my MTH locomotives and they run as great as they look. FYI, the scale Williams GG-1 will run on 0-42 track. I recently saw the Williams Bicentenial GG-1 at the Big E and was very impressed. Last York, Larry Harrington from Williams conversed with me about how careful Williams was to get the paint job accurate.
I just purchased my first WBB engine the Silver GG1. Must say I am disappointed. My layout has 4 switches and 6 crossings, all RealTrax. Running the GG1 forward was not good, the front truck jumped the track at crossings and switches at several speeds, never very fast. Examining the trucks I found that the front 2 wheels of the front truck did not touch the track simultaneously, the truck is warped. Further examination revealed that the rear of the body was resting on and rubbing the rear truck. I ran the engine reverse with some success but eventfully, it jumped the track again. Total running time was not more than 10 minutes.
Marty, I see in the picture on your post several switches – apparently you do not have a problem with your Williams GG1’s. I am waiting for a return mail label to send it back to the dealer, who will ship it back to the distributor, who will ship it back to WBB. One of those stops should result in someone shipping me a new GG1.
Has anyone else had this kind of problem, or is this just an isolated error?
I need to add to my last post – my minimum track curve is O-42
I just purchased my first WBB engine the Silver GG1. Must say I am disappointed. My layout has 4 switches and 6 crossings, all RealTrax. Running the GG1 forward was not good, the front truck jumped the track at crossings and switches at several speeds, never very fast. Examining the trucks I found that the front 2 wheels of the front truck did not touch the track simultaneously, the truck is warped. Further examination revealed that the rear of the body was resting on and rubbing the rear truck. I ran the engine reverse with some success but eventfully, it jumped the track again. Total running time was not more than 10 minutes.
Marty, I see in the picture on your post several switches – apparently you do not have a problem with your Williams GG1’s. I am waiting for a return mail label to send it back to the dealer, who will ship it back to the distributor, who will ship it back to WBB. One of those stops should result in someone shipping me a new GG1.
Has anyone else had this kind of problem, or is this just an isolated error?
I run mine on Fastrack at home and Scaletrax at my club, over plenty of switches, never had any derailments anywhere.
The UPS guy must have dropped your locomotive from the top of his truck. I am sorry to hear what happened to your locomotive. My layout is covered in switches and the Williams G has never had an issue. I run a main line high speed railroad and the trackwork has to be perfect.
Thanks for the replies.
I read all the posts I could find on this forum about WBB before I bought the GG1, and I have only read good things, so they must be well built and reliable products.
When I bought it I asked my dealer if it could pull my 11 MTH Premier Passenger cars, he said, “It could pull your car out of a ditch.” I don’t know if that will ever happen. But I am looking forward to pulling my PRR Congressional train with this GG1, it makes a great looking train, my wife even likes it
Well, I may be spoiled with my Lionel JLC Scale GG1, but I would always recommend Williams products. Great deals for great engines. I've got two steamers and love them.
I received a Williams loco for Christmas (my second) which ran erratically out of the box. The vendor exchanged it for a new one and I've been very pleased with both. I will purchase more Williams products in the near future. Don't be discouraged.
Nice loco, runs well. Can navigate O-42. This is what it looks like on O-72
Remember, this is a SCALE engine and the prototype is 80 feet long!
trainworld still has there WBB sale on the scale GG1's. the bicentenial is selling for $169.99.
The horn only blows the grade crossing pattern. It is not a Leslie A200. It's some othe multi-chime. There is some irony in that a GG-1 was one of the few loco's that used almost all of the other horn patterns more than the grade crossing signal. I'm not sure how many grade crossings there were on the main Pennsy electrified lines.
Two williams electric loco's I have (which were purchased about two years apart) both have the same horn which is wrong for both engines. GG-1 was purchased about a month ago.
True Bast 2 has been around for something close to 12-15 years. As near as I can tell from getting spare parts, Williams only has two sound boards, one horn board and one whistle board. I intend to pull the Williams board and replace it with one that is correct for a GG-1.
That's not what mine sounds like. The EP-5 definitely did not have a Hancock air chime. I suspect the loco in the video has a replacement board and not the original Williams one. This is an easy swap.
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