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I know which ones you mean, and my previous post still applies. I am also not complaining at all, just pointing out the reality of the matter, which is that virtually no one follows arrows in dealer halls and I personally have yet to observe a traffic jam. I'm also sure I'm not the only one who had completely missed them in the first place. Too busy browsing all the candy on the tables and having more than enough room to do so in either direction 

OMG.....I follow the arrows all the time.....must be that Parochial Elementary School brainwashing in me......

 

Peter

 

 

OK, I was following this thread because I'll never go to York and I found it so interesting what you all did there, the photos, the purchases. B U T, now I'm not following this conversation anymore.

 

Arrows on the floors? Come on... Who cares?

 

So, carry on guys, hope you enjoy your arrow-talk.

 

George (G3)

George:

 

I bet I'm not the only who doesn't care whether you are following the thread.

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For the 3 meets I've been to, even those areas were never congested enough to necessitate established traffic lanes.

 

Typically my experience is different.

Although I will agree that for the meet that just past, the arrows in the dealer hall probably weren't needed.

I still followed them, no reason not to.

 

As I've posted previously, it was nice to experience a York show that was almost free of traffic jams.

Maybe there were no traffic jams in the aisles because most people were following the arrows.  If nobody followed the arrows there may be more jammed aisles.

 

What's so hard about following the rules?

As it specifically relates to the dealer halls, no, seemed to me 9 out of 10 people were just going wherever their eyes took them, which is exactly how I shop the dealer halls as well. As for following rules, I tend not to when they're not enforced and make no appreciable difference. I have walked freely in the dealer halls for 3 Yorks now and the world is still turning 

PC9850, how long have you been a TCA member?, just curious.  

Back in the days of Yellow and Purple Hall being the main dealer halls it was nearly impossible to go against the arrows. Purple Hall felt like a cattle chute. One step stop, wait..one step stop.

Scott Smith

I have attended every York since 1985 and I have to admit I rarely follow the arrows. It just seems I am half up the aisle before I realize I am going against the flow. oh well! 

So do I, but in my case, it's my German blood.

I hope, if you someday find yourself in one of those electric "chairs", you start following the arrows (as well as keeping your speed below 10 mph).

Only to find out that 4 people decided to have a "friendship reunion" in the middle of the aisle.

Go to York sometime and try to get around the "human corks" and you'll understand the arrows.  

Exactly.  It's not like it creates a hardship to follow the intended flow.

 

Many of the collector halls are narrow enough that 2 scooters going in opposite directions will not make it.  One would need to back out.  That would certainly be convenient.  (for the record, I believe all scooter drivers that went down my aisle were going the right way)

 

-Dave

 

 

I definitely had a cause. I wanted to go the other way

Seriously though, my original post about walking against the arrows a few times in the member halls was only meant to highlight the fact that crowds were light enough for it to be inconsequential. I had not intended for that to rustle so many jimmies around here. To be perfectly honest I have to chuckle that this is such a sore point for some people. This past meet was the first time I purposefully walked against the arrows in the member halls, and I've been oblivious to them in the dealer halls for three meets now. Not a single traffic incident has occurred nor did anyone notice or care. I plan to continue walking freely in the dealer halls as long as the space is there. Really guys, it's a non-issue.

It's members like you that bump into members who are doing what should be done. Follow the rules!

So you walked the wrong way, you might be the guy who bumped into me when I was walking the right way! Follow the rules! How hard is it for you to walk just a few more steps and go back around!. There is a reason for the arrows on the floor. The arrows help the member dealers by making everyone walk past their tables.

I'll back Nick up on this one. In the member halls I followed the arrows, dealer halls I did what I want and many others did the same. Only issue I had was one very determined dude walking the wrong way when I followed the arrows that bowled over a number of folks and just kept going. If there is room and it isn't packed like a sardine can, I'm walking where I want and if anyone speaks up, they might not like the response from me. 

Wasn't me, because I didn't bump into anyone. 

 

Agreed. And yes, the "feedback" here so far has been pretty funny. I admit I'm starting to have a little too much fun with it, since this is seriously much ado about nothing. A full page and a half of it now. Maybe it's a symptom of that "Post York Depression" Scott was talking about 

Ah yes.  Those inviolate direction signs that some genius decided to place on the floor, not on the ends of the tables.

 

How many dealers/sellers place all their goodies down on the floor, like on a carpet central layout, just asking to be stepped on?  No!  They place the goodies up on top of the tables where everyone expects to find them and where most people are looking.

 

Put the freaking arrows up where they can be seen if they are so darned important!  Otherwise, eliminate them!

 

There!  Now I feel 100% better!  Carry on gentlemen!

 

Tony

It's nice to see that old debates are replaced by new ones...cell phones and cameras replaced by arrow placement and Thursday starting times. The old favorites are still with us...restroom tips, opening to the public, strollers, one-star motels vs. two-star motels, body odor,...what have I forgotten?

How tough is it to walk down an extra isle? Eddie rules! John

I think people who intentionally disregard rules should be ejected from the show.

It certainly reflects something about their character and respect for authority.

I agree;  and boasting about it speaks volumes.....
"Who's going to make me ?"   The same person that compels us to keep the promises we make.

 

SZ

I would be willing to bet that most have walked against the arrows on purpose a time or two.

Character and respect fully develop when you have to support yourself and others...and you have to buy your own toys.  Magically, you stop arguing with your elders, and poking fun at the old geezers.  You wake up one morning, and all of a sudden realize your parents and their generation are not buttholes!!!...now back to "What did you get at York?"  Geesh!!!

You'd win that bet, and it's not going to change. The thousands of attendees who walk freely whenever there's more than enough room will continue to do so and everyone will still have a grand time. It's a very easy reality to accept for most, but unfortunately some still cling to it as a sort of spicy scandal. Just another part of the "York Experience"! 

I can honestly say that I have never paid the SLIGHTEST attention to the arrows on the floor.

 

It's silly...especially given the light attendance at this show. The orange hall was not corwded at all.

It's obviously time for OGR to be re-assigned to one of the narrower aisles in Orange for a few meets. 

Rich,

Your comments are interesting in light of the fact that when you registered you signed a statement on the mail in registration, or electronically if on-line, that ..."you are agreeing to have read, be familiar with and willing to abide by the rules of the meet"...

 

just curious what other rules you consider "silly" and choose not to abide by?

I have never attended a train meet at York. I have heard of 'the arrows' but having people get upset about Mr Melvin's comment makes me believe I am correct in my prior thoughts that it's as much a 'old men with odd rules' meet as a train meet. Kinda reminds me of the film 'Peggy Sue got married' were the old men at the lodge had odd rules enforced only so that they could get to the beer drinking! 

I'd still like to attend once.....but the outrage over Rich's statement scares me!!!

Exactly what I've been saying for the past two pages. It's not heresy, just the practical reality of the matter.

 

Join the "York Outlaws Club" Rich 

If that scares you, have you seen the past two pages of posts prior to Rich's response? One thinks I should be ejected from the show, another for reasons unknown looked up my home address and posted it here (thank you for removing that, Rich). And we wonder why attendance is sliding... 

I probably posted this before:

When the crowds are light, following the arrows isn't essential. I do it anyway because there isn't a reason not to. I tour each hall by going up and down the isles. I don't skip around.

 

When the show is busy, following the arrows certainly does help to keep the traffic flowing.

 

As far as traffic levels at this past show are concerned:
When I was there, the member halls certainly were busy enough to need the arrows. Maybe the demand is shifting back towards member to member exchanges .

This thread is a microcosm of attitudes in our country.

 

It doesn't matter what our opinions of the rules are.  If our hosts have them, we should behave properly as guests and follow them.   If not, leave.  

 

Do I like some of them? No.  Do I ignore or complain? No.  Do I choose to focus on the postives and great time I had?  YES!

 

My haul consisted of some rolling stock I unexpectedly came across and a whole slew of scenic accents and arttista figures.

 

--Greg

Yes......and the other outrage does make me want to attend a meet in PA .....the Ford meet at Carlisle!

If it's anything like the "Corvettes at Carlisle" show, you'll have a blast. No arrows to contend with either