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Q: Mike, another question, this about my new FlyerChief Polar Express set Berk. Great set but smoke unit was DOA upon arrival and upon contacting customer service they took care of my problem in a very speedy and satisfactory fashion replacing the smoke unit and I'mvery happy with the service Lionel gave. However, my question is, at slow speeds if smokes like a chimney but at higher running speeds the appearance of smoke from the smokestack diminishes considerably. Why does this happen since there's a constant 18 volts being applied regardless of the speed? Btw, I'm using Lionel's Premium smoke fluid and the original power supply included with the set has been replaced with your more powerful 4 amp , 70 something watt wall wart.

A: The voltage to the element is the same at all speed ranges (the great thing about fixed track voltage). The amount of smoke produced by the smoke unit is the same, the reason you see a difference in smoke production is directly related to the amount of air flow moving through the smoke bowl, at slow speeds the air flow is very slow, so the smoke has a chance to gather in the bowl. At higher speed the air flow there is less time for the smoke to collect in the bowl, so it "appears" the smoke production is less, when in reality it is identical, just a faster amount of air passing through the smoke chamber.

Q: Also, why did Lionel resort to using a type of glue to affix the passenger car light wires to the copper contact strips rubbing the wheel axles rather than soldering the wires? Myself and some other folks with this set have experienced fluttering light problems due to loose wire contacts on the cars the longer they're run. A great engine and superb looking passenger cars but lighting tends to be problematic

A: Hot glue does not provide an electrical connection. The wires are in fact soldered to the phosphor bronze contacts. The hot glue is used as strain relief on the wires, as there is no provision (or space) to put any type of zip tie in there to provide that strain relief. So, the wires are not hot glued, they are in fact soldered, the hot glue is just there for strain relief (so the soldered connection does not wiggle so much it breaks the soldered wire.

Q:When is the 2016 American Flyer catalog scheduled to be released? Will it be a separate catalog?

A: early to mid January. Yes, still a separate catalog

Q:What is your middle name Mike? and when will it replace the "Lionel" in the logo?

A: Patrick, never, if I have anything to say about it!

Q:What is the average wind velocity of a sparrow?

A: An African or European sparrow?

Q: A comment & question for Mike. With all the excellent technolgy that has gone into the legacy system over the past few years and all of the great scale locomotives & rolling stock I feel that one thing that has been overlooked by Lionel are the acceories that compliment the operation of the railroad. That being crossing signals,crossing gates and a signaling system that are in scale size and operate in the same protyipical manner that our trains operate at. With the devolopment of the I Pad technology for operating our trains will Lionel offer such trackside accessories that add to that level of realistic operation?

A: While I cannot comment about what the future holds product wise I would like to pose a question to all the scale and traditional operators out there; Would traditional guys buy scale operating accessories and would scale guys buy "scale operating accessories? If you could email me privately with your answers I would truly appreciate some honest feedback; mreagan@lionel.com

Q: In conventional mode how many volts does it take for  Legacy diesels to smoke reliantly?

A: I cannot answer as to how reliantly they smoke, but if you meant to say reliably, then the answer is 12-13 Volts AC is optimal. Anything under 12 and smoke production will be anemic, anything above 13V will be regulated at 13V, so it doesn't matter. The ideal smoke output on a Legacy loco will come from a chopped sine wave transformer putting out 12VAC or higher. Using Lionel Premium Smoke Fluid will also yield better results than other manufacturers smoke fluid (and before anyone says anything buying in bulk, tell me what fluid ounce size bulk is in your mind, because "my" version of bulk is 55 gallons).

Q: Mike, I'm a great fan of Lionel, you and your products are responsible for saving what little sanity I posses.  What, however, possessed "you" to change the design of the freight trucks?  The new design is very pleasing, aesthetically, and the coupler release mechanism ("the pin") is great but once you get into the guts all you find is cheap stampings and little brass rivets - the worst is the bolster.  I like to run trains that have weight to them and have the truck springs actually perform their design function but these delicate little things are better suited to Mag-Lev.  Also, I was very disappointed (really frustrated) to learn that the screws attaching the side frames to the "bolster" are a mix-match affair.  A pair of trucks from my new cattle car had two different screw and thread types in the same truck; I "assumed" they were the same and wound up cross threading.  Your product quality is swell, generally, but few exceptions are egregious.

A: To be honest, the changes my team have made to the scale car trucks has not reached the market yet (tools are still being cut in fact!). These will not see consumer hands until Sept 2016. I can tell you this; the existing scale truck is comprised of 43 individual parts. the new truck design has 21 parts and for those of you out there who convert your couplers to scale 2-rail couplers, you will be excited to learn that when these new trucks hit the market it will be one screw to remove (the truck bolster screw), lift off the 3-rail coupler, put the truck back on. Presto! easy as that! The trucks on you cattle car are the same design Lionel has had since 2000 with the introduction of the scale truck.

Q: Thank you for subjecting yourself to this barrage, you deserve a raise if not sainthood.

A: Believe me, thank Ken Bianco Jr, you guys have no idea the pain he will endure for years to come as a result of this!

Q: Is it possible we will see accurate ES44ACs per railroad, not based off the NS Heritage tooling? And, will we see CSX "-3" rebuild locomotives?

A. Believe it or not, Still can't (aka will not) answer any future product questions, unfortunately you will have to wait for the catalogs to come out!

Q: When are the new 21" Station Sounds diners shipping? They have not been in the online shipping schedule for quite a while.
ESE full sets (the 1st 21" cars to deliver) and the ESE 2-car add-on set will ship from our Concord, NC warehouse on 12/13. The rest of the remaining 21" sets wil be loaded on a boat on 12/13 and ship from Concord on 2/1/16 (maybe a week sooner). The Stationsounds Diners will likely hit dealer shelves around March 1st to March 15th, based on the current production schedule we hammered out two weeks ago.

On a separate note, wait til you see these cars! They are FREAKING BEAUTIFUL!!!!!

Q: The new Legacy crane and boom cars are in the schedule but are they really shipping five months apart? The schedule says boom cars next month, cranes May 2016.

A: yes and no. The boom cars are actually done and will come to the US and will be held in our inventory in Concord until the Cranes arrive, because let's be honest, who wants a boom sounds car BEFORE the crane? The items appear that way on the ship schedule as a result of the automation we have implemented for the shipping schedule. The ship dates are actually generated from the ship date on our Purchase orders for the production of the models. This automation has freed up a lot of previously wasted time updating the shipping schedule one item at a time to globally updating the list every night. But hey, let's be honest with each(cause I know everyone who cares has been thinking this) look at how much less there would to complain about if our shipping schedule was ever 100% accurate all the time? (it is pretty much 92% accurate at this point in time! Thank God for small miracles!).

 

 

LOCOMOTION posted:

Will we see a new Mi-Jack crane that will unload the Lionel doublestack cars, soon?  LOCOMOTION

I asked Mike a similar question at Trainfest in Milwaukee a month ago and his response was that the chance of a remake with cab 1/legacy control was not going to happen. It was implied that it was not a good accessory mechanically speaking to begin with so remaining it or adding features was not in the future plans. 

Q)Where and how can someone learn how to repair the newer Legacy and TMCC Lionel products? Do you have to be a dealer to be offered classes on repair?

Q)I heard that Lionel was hiring Apprentice Techs not long ago,and would be adding more in the future.Is this true?,and if so,is this the only way to be trained to become a certified repair tech? -Thanks,Kenny Baughman

Q)Where and how can someone learn how to repair the newer Legacy and TMCC Lionel products? Do you have to be a dealer to be offered classes on repair?

A: We have been "talking" about having classes over the summer, but with the relocation of service to NC and the resettlement of service down there it was just simply too much for us to handle. We will most definitely be conducting service classes in Concord, NC in the summer of 2016. There will likely be 4 separate classes at 4 separate times; TMCC1, Legacy Modular, Legacy RCMC platform and Lionchief/conventional. We are still in the planning phases of this and will have more information to post closer to Feb 2016. If you would like to be added to the list we communicate this to first please email talktous@lionel.com with "service training" in the subject line and we will include you in the announcement email.

Q)I heard that Lionel was hiring Apprentice Techs not long ago,and would be adding more in the future.Is this true?,and if so,is this the only way to be trained to become a certified repair tech?

A: Really? I should pay more attention to the OGR forum, apparently they make decisions about what I am doing without my knowledge. From this point forward I will check the forum each morning to find out what I am to be doing each day! LOL

Q: One question i have Mike, Why no legacy upgrade kits for older TMCC engines? I  know i would like to upgrade some of mine.

A; Here is what needs to change inside your TMCC 1 locomotive to upgrade to Legacy; gearbox needs to be non locking (so replace worm wheel and worm gear), replace motherboards, as the pinouts on the R4LC do not match the R2LC pinouts. Replace the flywheel and encoder on motor, replace the IR transmitter and receiver, completely rebuild the smoke circuit (replacing the ACRG with a 9-bit compatible ACRG), replace the RS audio board with a new RS5.5 board. This is just the high level stuff. The physical fit is an entirely different animal, there would be a lot of cutting and milling involved to create new mounting posts for PCB's, new bracketry, etc. The undertaking of creating a new Legacy upgrade kit for all TMCC1 locos would be EXTREMELY expensive and the labor to install it would be even more expensive! (not to be a smart @ss, but I might know a thing or two about creating universal command control upgrade kits from a past life as owner of TAS!). So, instead of saying all this when folks ask, I just say "not possible". Thanks for asking so I had a chance to put it out there!

Why does Lionel use the pre-cut smoke batting in new engines, but yet sell the rope style batting as a replacement part when we all know/assume the rope style performs better?  

Many consumers take then15-20 drops to fill a smoke unit as the Gospel, becuase thats what the manual says. If you want a smoke unit to perform at full capacity, like all the repairs that Alex Malliae performs, why not increase that 15-20 drops? 

Nevermind Mike, you'd get twice as many return for smoke unit problems. Lol Many of us know, and have shown, that 15-20 drops if just not enough for max performance and to keep the batting from burning. Once burnt, the performance is greatly reduced.

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KenJrTW posted:

 

Q. What is being done to increase the quality and reliability of new delivered products.
A. Every single product produced in every single factory is tested prior to packaging. Lionel has 3 US citizens who spend 11 months out of the year living in China for manufacturing support and quality assurance roles.  Can you give me an example of what new products your referring to and what the failures your seeing are?

Well...I have had some items that I can recall easily...I've bought dozens of items new and it seems like the chance of getting something that is perfect, (no repair or touchup required), is about 50%.

This is all new stuff...in the last year or two.

Berkshire that he pilot wheels fell out onto the floor.

Hoses from the pilot lying in the unopened packaging as best as I could tell.

Smoke unit that took a number of compressed air and resets to break in...I guess...works now.

One Cab2 unit had the display all jumbled up, and one Cab2 had a non working vibration feature (I gave up on this one, it still is much weaker than the others, it went back twice)

A vision line reefer that the coupler won't stay closed.

An N&W GP35 I just got with a busted off MU step lying in the packaging.

An SD70 Heritage with a non working IR transmitter.

A diesel, forgot which one, maybe the CSX ES44, that the engineer was tumbling around in the cab.

I can't remember them all just off hand...oh yeah...

A genset that had a number of windows fallen out and lying in the packaging. There was/were one or two missing and I emailed for replacements and got them. Quick service too.

Which brings me to this conclusion:

I would like to get perfect new stuff, but I applaud you and Lionel for attending to all these issues in a timely and complete manner. You make Lionel work for me. I am sure there are many there who care to make the Lionel experience the best for us. But I am grateful to you Mike and Jon who are the most visible to me. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Mike, hope you're still around to answer this.  I tried posting it earlier with my iPhone while at a train store, but I ran into a glitch with the new forum software update that just occurred a couple of days ago.  So I'm back home now on my desktop PC. 

Can you clarify if the 4 roadnames catalog'd in 2015 for the 18" aluminum cars that are now being delivered will be the last 18" aluminum cars for Lionel?  The shipping schedule is still showing some of the previously announced 18" aluminum cars with ETA shipping dates moving into 2016.    Are these real, or are they listed in error?  Thanks for the clarification, Mike!

David

Q: When will the Powerhouse 180 Brick be available?  I have a VL Hudson, VL Bigboy and a Legacy, would like to run all 3 at the same time. Used to have 2 Bricks but 1 shorted out when running all 3 engines at the same time.(expensive lession learned) Have 3 on order.

A: These will "likely" be available in May 2016. New winding in this transformer compared to the last time it was made requires us to resubmit to UL for approval and licensing. Unfortunately this takes a great deal of time and whole lot of red tape. the good news is the circuit breaker will be improved and will allow piggybacking in the new 360W Legacy Powermaster for replacement of all the obsolete TPC 300's and 400's. Unfortunately, being the biggest fish in the pond = having to follow all the rules all the time.

Q: Why does Lionel use the pre-cut smoke batting in new engines, but yet sell the rope style batting as a replacement part when we all know/assume the rope style performs better?  

A: This is a question for Jon Z (Santafe fan). I cannot "safely answer this question in this setting (yes, this is what covering your @ss corporately look like externally)

Q: Many consumers take then15-20 drops to fill a smoke unit as the Gospel, becuase thats what the manual says. If you want a smoke unit to perform at full capacity, like all the repairs that Alex Malliae performs, why not increase that 15-20 drops? 

A: 99 out of 100 repairs I see in CS for smoke unit problems are the direct result of folks adding too much fluid. The answer here is a lot like my previous answer on parts. When we make a loco, it comes with 1 manual. The same manual that those in the "know" get as well as those who, well, aren't in the know. So, I need to err on the side of caution, for the sake of preventing consumers from snarfing their smoke units prematurely. Another very interesting fact is that if you use our Premium Smoke Fluid in your Lionel locos they will smoke reliably (not trying to cause a war here, but JT Mega Steam used in Lionel locos leaves a very sticky residue that prematurely degrades the performance of Lionel smoke units. The same rules apply in adding fluid (read not overfilling and flooding the smoke unit here), but Lionel premium Fluid burns clean and does not leave any undesired residue inside the smoke unit.

Q: Nevermind Mike, you'd get twice as many return for smoke unit problems. Lol Many of us know, and have shown, that 15-20 drops if just not enough for max performance and to keep the batting from burning. Once burnt, the performance is greatly reduced.

A: Here is a fact you may not be aware of! Did you know that you take Lionel smoke unit batting and subdue it to direct flame from a plumbing torch and it will never turn black! The black residue that appears on the batting is actually hydrocarbon left over when smoke fluid changes states from liquid to vapor! I encourage you to try this test (take the batting out of the smoke unit first though!).

Q: Can you clarify if the 4 roadnames catalog'd in 2015 for the 18" aluminum cars that are now being delivered will be the last 18" aluminum cars for Lionel?  The shipping schedule is still showing some of the previously announced 18" aluminum cars with ETA shipping dates moving into 2016.    Are these real, or are they listed in error?  Thanks for the clarification, Mike!

A: The sets being built & delivered are PRR Congressional, SP, UP, Milw Rd. both the 4-packs and the 2-car add ons. The plan for the passenger cars, replacement plan, dropped, etc. is saved here as an attachment for everyone's records.

Attachments

Are there any plans to re-run the Lionel Maiden Rescue accessory?  And, if possible, will it be re-run with a new mechanism that does not require a manual re-set of the Mounted Policeman?

This looks like a wonderful accessory, but having to go over to reset it manually limits its usefulness and placement opportunities on a larger layout.

Thanks for taking the time to answer questions.

Steven J. Serenska

 

Q. Are there any plans to re-run the Lionel Maiden Rescue accessory?  And, if possible, will it be re-run with a new mechanism that does not require a manual re-set of the Mounted Policeman?

This looks like a wonderful accessory, but having to go over to reset it manually limits its usefulness and placement opportunities on a larger layout.

Thanks for taking the time to answer questions.

A. Can't answer any future product questions, unfortunately you will have to wait for the catalogs to come out!

Mike, this chat was excellent and should be repeated on a quarterly basis. My Sales and Marketing leadership teams do this quarterly and I have found it very effective. Hearing from the folks that are in charge really builds - adds integrity and loyal customers and employees. Kills all the crap in the rumor mill and is a chance for feedback directly to you and Lionel.

Again, thanks for taking the time out to do this.

pa posted:

I have one of the new LM Challengers, 6-82698, that has whistle smoke.

There is nothing in the manual about where to add smoke fluid or the switch under

the engine to turn off the smoke.

Where does the smoke fluid go?

 

 

In the same as where you put the main smoke fluid. Good smoker. And you have to have the main smoke on the run the whistle smoke...which is right behind the main stack and a little difficult to see with smoke billowing out.

"Q: Many consumers take then15-20 drops to fill a smoke unit as the Gospel, becuase thats what the manual says. If you want a smoke unit to perform at full capacity, like all the repairs that Alex Malliae performs, why not increase that 15-20 drops? 

A: 99 out of 100 repairs I see in CS for smoke unit problems are the direct result of folks adding too much fluid."

 

On the smoke unit issue, I would like to add a comment that may help explain how 99% of the smoke unit repair faults seem to point to over filling the unit with smoke fluid.

While many may overfill the smoke unit, let's say when a 15 to 20 drop customer has a smoke unit fail, the only thing the average customer has any control over is to try more fluid...before they send the unit back to Lionel. So I think it's too quick of a conclusion.

I have had a couple brand new smoke units fail, 3 cab light blinks, and repeated on/off and trying some metered air into the fan have caused them to start working. But I could have resorted to more smoke fluid and masked the original fault. Just sayin'.

 

El Classico posted:

"Why does Lionel still use can motors for sets and low end trains when the old universals have proved themselves time and again to be superior in every aspect?"

While being a factually inaccurate statement, it might be helpful to provide a few points of comment to support your inaccurate claim so that meaningful discussion can take place.

Obviously, there are pluses and minuses to both types of systems, what are your top three or four points that you would like Mike to respond to?

 

Charlie

Anything under 12 and smoke production will be anemic, anything above 13V will be regulated at 13V, so it doesn't matter. So says Mike and this is exactly the reason I will not buy any more Legacy locos. Have several TMCC diesels and steam locos and they smoke well in conventional mode at well under 12 volts. Legacy from my point of view was not an advancement.

laz1957 posted:

Hi MIKE,

  Why does it take 3 years for parts of the Lionel Fast Track Crossing with flashers to get here?  The part and number are,

6102052010

FLASHER SIGNAL ASSY/GRD XIN?

 

And they are still not here, states 01/01/2016?????????

How many times was this updated?  What was the problem getting these? 

Mike I agree!! If been mth get hold of midge if she can get it be here 3 weeks. Lionel might as well forget it if not in stock.  

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chessie1971 posted:
laz1957 posted:

Hi MIKE,

  Why does it take 3 years for parts of the Lionel Fast Track Crossing with flashers to get here?  The part and number are,

6102052010

FLASHER SIGNAL ASSY/GRD XIN?

 

And they are still not here, states 01/01/2016?????????

How many times was this updated?  What was the problem getting these? 

Mike I agree!! If been mth get hold of midge if she can get it be here 3 weeks. Lionel might as well forget it if not in stock.  

Well...isn't it possible that there are other items that MTH has to wait for? Not knowing anything about why it took 3 years...this seems harsh.

cjack posted:
chessie1971 posted:
laz1957 posted:

Hi MIKE,

  Why does it take 3 years for parts of the Lionel Fast Track Crossing with flashers to get here?  The part and number are,

6102052010

FLASHER SIGNAL ASSY/GRD XIN?

 

And they are still not here, states 01/01/2016?????????

How many times was this updated?  What was the problem getting these? 

Mike I agree!! If been mth get hold of midge if she can get it be here 3 weeks. Lionel might as well forget it if not in stock.  

Well...isn't it possible that there are other items that MTH has to wait for? Not knowing anything about why it took 3 years...this seems harsh.

No its not harsh its the truth lionel just does not order parts if don't have in stock your out of luck they just won't order nothing. 

Hello Mike.

I received my 4 car senator set 6-20000 yesterday and am pleased with it. The question I have is in regard to the Observation car illumination. The car interior lighting and drumhead illuminate with track power. I see marker lamps in the car end however these do not light when track power is applied. Is this correct ?  If the lights should illuminate, can I have this repaired at Concord while I wait ? It would avoid a second trip from home .  Thanks you. The led illumination in these cars is a neat feature. Thanks for doing it.

Rustyrail the post not broken it just does not work right. I have to play with it to get the signal to work so why i want to replace it. Lionel sent me a new one when the fastrack crossing signal was in its warranty. The crossing signal they sent me works flawlessly and i plug it in the other side of the crossing its works flawless too thought maybe it was the socket in the crossing itself but its not or the other crossing signal would not work right as well. 

LIRR Steamer posted:

Hello Mike.

I received my 4 car senator set 6-20000 yesterday and am pleased with it. The question I have is in regard to the Observation car illumination. The car interior lighting and drumhead illuminate with track power. I see marker lamps in the car end however these do not light when track power is applied. Is this correct ?  If the lights should illuminate, can I have this repaired at Concord while I wait ? It would avoid a second trip from home .  Thanks you. The led illumination in these cars is a neat feature. Thanks for doing it.

Mike's finished answering now and I suggest you email him your question.

However my guess is that the marker lamps do not light. Lionel made some observation cars whose markers had what looks like a fibre optic filament in them, which I assume was supposed to transmit light from the interior to the lens. I never found that this produced a good effect and wired Evan Designs LEDs to the markers instead.

On the other hand I know your set was catalogued with "operating" marker lights although this could be a publishing error. There's no manual or replacement parts photo for the set that I can find on Lionel's website so it would be hard to tell without peering into the car whether there are in fact any lamps wired in behind the lights. Seems unlikely that there would be a separate no/off switch for the markers.

gunrunnerjohn posted:
Kerrigan posted:

Does the TMCC system really rely on receiving part of the signal from the house wiring? 

Yep, it really does.  In truth, it's the earth ground, so your lawn would work as well...

I keep hearing "yes it does" and "no it doesn't" so was wondering what the horses' mouth (Lionel) had to toss into the mix.  If I set up a loop of track on a board in a field, run a non-grounded extension cord to it for power, TMCC won't work at all without the "house wiring signal"?

Really?

Kerrigan posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:
Kerrigan posted:

Does the TMCC system really rely on receiving part of the signal from the house wiring? 

Yep, it really does.  In truth, it's the earth ground, so your lawn would work as well...

I keep hearing "yes it does" and "no it doesn't" so was wondering what the horses' mouth (Lionel) had to toss into the mix.  If I set up a loop of track on a board in a field, run a non-grounded extension cord to it for power, TMCC won't work at all without the "house wiring signal"?

Really?

Yes,,,REALLY!!!!!!

Kerrigan posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:
Kerrigan posted:

Does the TMCC system really rely on receiving part of the signal from the house wiring? 

Yep, it really does.  In truth, it's the earth ground, so your lawn would work as well...

I keep hearing "yes it does" and "no it doesn't" so was wondering what the horses' mouth (Lionel) had to toss into the mix.  If I set up a loop of track on a board in a field, run a non-grounded extension cord to it for power, TMCC won't work at all without the "house wiring signal"?

Really?

Try it!  Occasionally, we'll plug the Legacy base on our modular layout into a non-ground extension cord and wonder why we can't run trains.  It really needs the ground connection, REALLY!

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