Anybody Going to the Stout Auction This Saturday

would be a good one to attend, just to see some of those items. But I am way too far away, so it's absentee bids on the more affordable lots for me.

 

Tim

Not going but I placed a couple of bids.  17% internet bidders premium + shipping, ouch!  Gotta keep the bids low.

Yes I should be there, barring a foot of snow. This is the kind of collection you see at auction maybe one or two times in your collecting "career". Just about every iconic set from Ives, Flyer, and Lionel are represented.

 

The rarity of some of this stuff is what is incredible. Trains like the Prosperity Special, and the Mayflower make even a brown Lionel State set look commonplace, and the green ones, well, mundane.

 

I got a glimpse of this at the last Stout auction, and the pictures on the websites just do not give it justice.

 

If you are within an hour of the auction, I'd take the drive, and see what original tinplate in its rarest form looks like.

 

As for low bids, well, I think everyone who's been starving for good Ives and Flyer originals will be out in force. Which means, I'll probably get skunked. But it will be interesting to watch.

Let us know how you do.

I've already been outbid on all but one of the online bids I placed.

Will be interesting to see how high the prosperity set goes for.

Let us know how you do.

I've already been outbid on all but one of the online bids I placed.

Will be interesting to see how high the prosperity set goes for.

 

 

    Ill be there to witness the bloodbath!!! Weather is supposed to be bad, but Im only 30 minutes away! Go XDrive!

I was considering going from the west coast for this auction, I have been looking at this collection online for a few years.

I was somewhat disappointed when saw the auction catalog , one of the brown, and green state sets are restored the green 408 is also restored, the mayflower set is r eplated and one car is not original . there is some nice stuff though , white Ives and prosperity set, I will bid online on a few items.

chris

Assuming this one is in Indiana, I'm real close as well and would love to go, but probably will not make it.  Now I am curious....  i better look and see if there are any Ives 1122 parts lots   I  seem to need a few things

 

Should have looked closer first... I get to wait till Feb for the IN auction

yes, i just looked through it as well.... some nice stuff there...

Dennis, What parts do you need for 1122s? I just finished liquidating a huge O gauge IVES collection and was moving onto the parts. whitejettacoupe@yahoo.com.

 

  Tomorrow should be interesting. The Prosperity cars are the best ones known to exist, and are from the collection of the late Lou Hertz! I bet some records will be set! I suppose Ill take some popcorn! 

 

  Good luck to all who are bidding!

Watched online and the PROSPERITY SET went for $60,100 plus commission!

 

Gunny

Sheesh, that was a long day, and a little hard on the nerves.  I'm actually out of the country, and the web connection was a little sketchy, with a confusing delay, and I had to reboot a couple times.  Hair-raising considering the money involved.

 

Yup, there were some records set alright.  Prosperity special for 60K?  But at the same time there were some amazing deals.  I think everybody was after the same things, so others got overlooked.  Some very nice C-7-8 rolling stock and accessories in the low to mid hundreds.  Nice!

 

The thing I really signed up for got well away from me, and I let it go... but there were some better surprises too.  Flyer wide gauge Lone Scout set, perfect, C-8, for less than an MTH would be if they made one, and they won't because it's lithography.  And a C-7 buff tan Flyer presidential set, that was a walk-away steal, same thing, price of an MTH - and these are 80 year old originals, in superb condition.

 

Collect what nobody else collects!

 

 

Yes I also noticed the site locked up quite a few times! How about the American Flyer caboose #4011 for $6,750 ?

 

Gunny

Remember that a lot of this stuff is really rare and tough to find. There are probably more MTH Prosperity sets than originals. BTW, it did not sell. It had a reserve put on it, so it's going back to the owner.

 

I got skunked. So be it.

 

For all you modern tinplate guys, looks like someone posted a Goliath on ebay... For $5K...

hojack, are you saying you won the auction on the lone scout and the buff AF presidential sets?  If so, please post pictures when you receive them.

I won a few items as well. Nothing too expensive. I'll have to post pictures when they arrive. First time at a Stout auction (via internet) but it won't be my last.

John.

Yeah, okay, caught up in the enthusiasm.... An MTH presidential retails for 1800 - but they don't even make it in tan, and my point is, this is complete set original vintage with original boxes, if that's anything, and my real point is that the blue presidential went for more than twice that.  I do think it was a very good deal.

 

There were lots more.  Look at lot 2045.  Lionel #8, 332, 337, 338 all C-7, the set for 475!   How about lot 2047, #10, 337, 337, 338 Mohave C-7, $225!!!    You would never do so well buying on the bbay.  

 

I can can post pics but it will be a few weeks before I get back.

 

Are you serious they had a reserve on the prosperity set and didn't sell at 60?  Wow.  That's a different league altogether.   

 

Definitely a fun auction to be part of.  Good to know I wasn't the only one having webcast issues.  

 

 

Took some time to watch... Way out of my league. Glad repros are available for sure....

 

Sunrise

My understanding is that this auction was pretty much one collection.  It gives one pause.  Someone spends the better part of a lifetime collecting these pieces.  When they pass away, you and I come and each take a small part and put it with the others already in our train rooms.  When we go, someone we don't know will come and do the same.  It's like the law of conservation of matter: we come and go, while these pieces are still there, just rearranged and recombined into different collections.  Odd thought.

 

 

 

I definitely agree with you that there were some good buys.  I picked up some Lionel bridges for a great price.

 

I often think about what you just described.  Even trains have a "circle of life".  We are merely temporary caretakers.

 

Here is a link to the collection I believe the owner is alive and well, And the bulk of this collection was bought from the Ray Korte collection. the whole collection was forsale last year for somewhere around half million. A friend of mine was looking at it but did not see that much money in trains.

http://www.rmdtoytrains.org/RM...Layout_Tours/tjs.htm

http://www.rmdtoytrains.org/RM...ut_Tours/tjswall.htm

Any estimate of what the auction realized in total?

Nice, Gary.  I saw that Dorfan steamer set, it's a charmer!  Looks like it will fit right in, too!

 

I really think at this auction at least, that most everyone was focused on the sensational items and a lot of really nice things flew in under the radar...  

 

Pretty sure LA auto bids to the reserve. This is a special piece and I do not fault the consignor or the auction house for protecting it to some minimum level.

 

These guys are probably the best at holding a train auction, and are tops in the field. If they felt it needed a reserve, then they made the right choice.

 

Some auctions really have quite a number of items with reserves. You just can't tell from the computer. Stout has relatively few, I think.

overlandflyer, funny you mentioned accidentally placing a bid, I did just that.  I was watching on a laptop computer and was roaming around the house and accidently put a bid on a Lionel 218 dump car and I actually won it!  Good thing it only went for $90 and it's C7 so it was a happy accident.

 

 

John.