Blown boards in a Lionel Allegheny. Any suggestions???

Install EER boards and continue with life.

Electric Railroad Company

If I might suggest GRJ or AlexM for the full treatment.

This engine doesn't have the drop in board-it has the full EOB board. I didn't think those are compatible with the ERR Boards.

Thanks,

Scott Smith

Full blown cruise commander would replace it. 

Jim

Get it fixed don't part it out these are the best engines Lionel made,It will feel good to get it back and see it come to life.I have two of them Nick

1) An item number would be helpful. I'm guessing 6-28028, but it would be good to know for sure.

2) When you say your loco won't respond in conventional or TMCC, specifically what does it do or not do? Be sure to include details about lights, smoke unit and sound system - do these work?

3) Have you tried a program reset of the R2LC board?

TRW

rockstars1989 posted:

Get it fixed don't part it out these are the best engines Lionel made,It will feel good to get it back and see it come to life.I have two of them Nick

He already did when he put an EOB in it.

Ask Alex if he can fix it...

PaperTRW posted:

1) An item number would be helpful. I'm guessing 6-28028, but it would be good to know for sure.

2) When you say your loco won't respond in conventional or TMCC, specifically what does it do or not do? Be sure to include details about lights, smoke unit and sound system - do these work?

3) Have you tried a program reset of the R2LC board?

TRW

1) Yes it is 6-28028

2)When powered up I can see marker lights, headlight and cab lights. I have sound coming from the tender. Mostly static. The engine does not respond to command and it will not work in conventional (it powers off and on as you try, but no movement). In conventional I can blow the whistle and ring the bell.  Smoke unit is not coming on. 

3) The engine does not respond reset commands.

Scott Smith

Scott, I have that exact locomotive.  It's a standard Lionel modular TMCC setup, no cruise.  I installed the ERR Cruise Commander M, and of course my Chuff-Generator and Super-Chuffer.  There's nothing that precludes a pretty easy fix for this one, it's all standard Lionel parts, and plenty big enough to work on.

Scott, I would also do what the members said.  Stay clear of trying to repair/upgrade old electronics.  I would go ERR or DCS. 

I have to say Marty, on this one, presuming that he wants to stick with TMCC, I don't see any issue just going with the ERR CC-M and perhaps replacing the R2LC if required.  I like the wireless tether, you lose that with the DCS upgrade.  The "upgrade" is quick and easy, no rewiring required.

That will work ok.  I am a fan of the IR tether.  I am not a fan of older boards. 

" (Are the shells on the MTH and Lionel Allegheny interchangeable?)"

I can't resist it; really. Too nostalgic. I'm sorry:

Depends on which company's lawyer you ask. 

This was one of the early EOB boards--so the IR connection was replaced with a Train American tether (they made it to short). I still may have the original Lionel boards in the attic, with the original IR parts.

Scott Smith

Never mind I don't have the parts; all I could find was old QSI parts.
Scott Smith

FWIW Lionel still shows all the boards in stock for this loco if that helps: Lionel TMCC Allegheny Parts.

Time for the scrap heap. I have room in my yard in Wisconsin.

If you are heading to the beach "GGG" is in the tidewater area.

Bruce

scott.smith posted:

PaperTRW posted:

1) An item number would be helpful. I'm guessing 6-28028, but it would be good to know for sure.

2) When you say your loco won't respond in conventional or TMCC, specifically what does it do or not do? Be sure to include details about lights, smoke unit and sound system - do these work?

3) Have you tried a program reset of the R2LC board?

TRW

1) Yes it is 6-28028

2)When powered up I can see marker lights, headlight and cab lights. I have sound coming from the tender. Mostly static. The engine does not respond to command and it will not work in conventional (it powers off and on as you try, but no movement). In conventional I can blow the whistle and ring the bell.  Smoke unit is not coming on. 

3) The engine does not respond reset commands.

Scott Smith

OK, you might have two different problems going on.

1) You could have a bad Lionel R2LC board. Do you have another (or one from a different locomotive) you can try? This plugs into the EOB board. If this doesn't fix things, then the problem is likely with the EOB.

2) With regards to static coming from the tender, this is probably unrelated to your other problem. Unplug and re-seat the modular boards found in the tender. If this doesn't help, pull and re-seat the two RailSounds chips found on the audio board, but ONLY if you have the proper PLCC chip extractor. (It's the same one that comes with MTH Proto-1 reset kits.)

I hope this helps.
TRW

Sad that they ripped out the original parts as I find the wireless tether a very neat feature of Lionel equipment.

Well.... as my brother would suggest....

don't knock it until you've tried it. It relieves a lot of toy train induced stress.

If you wanted, I would lean towards PS3. I know you run both. Either manufacturer's modern boards would be good.

I have a few Alleghenies so I could try a swap for you. I don't have the Lionel yet though. I never would imagine that it's a direct swap/fit.

A simple board install after checking why it failed would be the best. Don't forget about the video!