https://www.youtube.com/watch?...amp;feature=youtu.be
It looks like this year is going to be giant.
Yves
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Boy,,,,,does THAT look expensive. To attend, that is.
i am looking forward to it. attending with a group of people. I have never been to the expo.
Better bring the BIG wallet. 
Always nice to see that there is entertainment for the 1%......
Is this the same brass show as the guy who runs the Timonium show had at Gettysburg, Pa., once (and elsewhere)....it doesnn't sound like it.
colorado hirailer posted:Is this the same brass show as the guy who runs the Timonium show had at Gettysburg, Pa., once (and elsewhere)....it doesnn't sound like it.
Follow the Link in the first post.
Simon
Do you have to wear a tuxedo???
Bob Delbridge posted:Do you have to wear a tuxedo???
Beats seeing naked folks.....
Fun!
wish I could go. Bummer
WOW!!!! That is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE for my budget, especially since it is primarily an HO event. Not that many O Scale brass importers remaining, with actual product to sell/reserve, i.e. only Sunset/3rd Rail comes to mind.
This is in Wheeling, ILLINOIS, not W.Va., as I had to delve in to find out. There are other O scale brass importers left, are there not, than only Sunset, although, in the O scale shows, not much, at least in the way of variety, seems to show up. The interesting part to me was to be the display of old brass which I hoped would include much of what was once available in O, Ken Kidder, etc. (unless that proves to be mostly HO, and I already know that Mack railbuses, Mckeen cars, other gas electrics and interesting cabooses have been available in HO for decades). The one in Gettysburg was mostly HO, but I did come away with a couple of things.
$25 doesn't seem too grotesque an entrance fee. But, to Hot Water's point, how many O Scale Brass importers are left? Perhaps only Key, Division Point (very maybe), Glacier Park Models, Sunset 3rd Rail, Precision Scale (nothing from them for almost 10 years), Overland Models (diesels only), Koh's, Rich Yoder, American Scale Models/Bill Davis, and.......... (actually more then I first thought, after cataloging them !)
A few of the fellows on here could hold their own Brass Expos
mark s posted:$25 doesn't seem too grotesque an entrance fee.
$25 + 2 days of driving or fly in/out plus at least 2 hotel nights.....to go to a show to neither sell or buy......
mwb posted:mark s posted:$25 doesn't seem too grotesque an entrance fee.
$25 + 2 days of driving or fly in/out plus at least 2 hotel nights.....to go to a show to neither sell or buy......
It might be worth it for an HO brasser.
The amount of O scale makes it not worthwhile for this O brasser.
According to the registration form the least expensive display table for an importer/builder is $750. Dealer display areas/tables are substantially less.
I would be surprised if Scott Mann (Sunset Models) will want to have a display, particularly considering the majority of his current products are either aluminum or plastic. The hospital cars will be brass but there won't be anything to display by October 1st.
Steam power is still made from brass, but there will most likely be nothing new to show in October. Another factor is that the York, PA TCA meet and the Strasburg show are both in October.
As of yesterday (July 5th) Dan Glasure had not contacted Scott about attending.
mwb posted:Bob Delbridge posted:Do you have to wear a tuxedo???
Beats seeing naked folks.....
Wellll.... Based on the price of admission and the products purveyed therein, you might see a few dudes emerging from this brass bash attired in this popular fashion of the times...
....which is yet preferable to Bubba-in-the-buff!......
KD
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I have always said "Brass is Class.
The train Hobby has a diverse group of people from around the world, with different nationalities, social norms, and economic status.
Some will not always be interested or financially afford their hearts desires and dreams. This show seems to be presented as a class act for those that are passionate about brass. Those with negative comments have no interest in the show or is financially above their means. Heck I have been to shows where tickets are well below $10 and people still complain or have a hard time paying for the admission. The Brass Expo ticket price is no different than what some O scale shows charges for a lot smaller show. I like the idea of the classical music get together. Haven knows we all need a little class sometimes. I for one am looking forward to the show whether if find something or not. I see it as a time to get away to something I enjoy and relax. Seeing Dan Glassure's "Museum" alone would be worth the price.
Best regards
Stephen
I'm in a vulnerable state right now, torn between my hi-rail roots and my 2-rail tendencies. Such an event could push me right over the edge. When/where is it?
Matt,
It is on Oct 1st and 2nd in a suburb of Chicago. Google "brass expo 2016." I believe you will find that HO dominates the show if past experience still holds true. Knowing some about what you like I would think the Chicago 2 rail "March Meet" would hold much greater interest for you.
i'm going with a purpose to enjoy seeing a large assortment of brass model trains in one place. any scale, it will be great to see all of them. things i have never seen in person and will probably never see again. things i remember seeing at several hobby shops growing up and have not seen since. for this show, selling and/or buying is secondary. if i do, great. if not, no biggie. i am going as a fan of brass model trains, any scale.
rheil posted:Matt,
It is on Oct 1st and 2nd in a suburb of Chicago. Google "brass expo 2016." I believe you will find that HO DOMINATES the show if past experience still holds true. Knowing some about what you like I would think the Chicago 2 rail "March Meet" would hold much greater interest for you.
Hits the nail right on the head.
From Kohs' latest update:
9/07/16 - In response to questions about whether I will be attending the O Scale National event in Indianapolis later this month, I offer the following; I will not be attending this event and instead will focus my attention on the Brass Expo taking place in Chicago on October 1st & 2nd. As I have explained in the past, evaluating the potential positive benefits of participating in the various shows around the country or in fact the world has become increasing more important. It's not only the direct cost of involvement, it's the time away from the business and getting things done when there is never enough time to begin with.
If you take the time to evaluate the offerings at the Brass Expo in terms of who will be exhibiting and the potential for learning more about the brass model aspect of the hobby, if that is of interest to you, is far greater than at another 'pile of boxes' show. It has been many years since a significant number of importers and builders have gathered together under one roof to explain their work, it actually goes back to the early days of the Brass Expo when it was held on the east coast. I know very well that many of my customers have never attended a model railroad show of any kind and have shown little interest in doing so based on the reputation of the typical modern day shows. From all indications everyone involved with the Brass Expo from the organizers to the participating exhibitors will be making a maximum effort to make this a unique and worthwhile event for anyone that chooses to attend. If you are someone that has been frustrated in trying to obtain factual information about a favorite project having only to rely on the gossip, rumors and misinformation spread in the modeling forums, take a look at the vendor list for the Expo, this is likely your best opportunity to coral your importer of choice to get some straight answers! If you are trying to decide about attending and I can offer you further information from my perspective, feel free to contact me.
On another subject, stay tuned for project updates!
I might be mistaken but I think this 'Brass Expo' show is all about an elaborate self promotion scheme by a large brass dealer from Florida. This dealer has an rather impressive internet site which seems to attract well healed customers from around the world via the internet. From a business standpoint they seem to get top dollar for their brass models. Dan Glasure and his business partners are currently very aggressive in the brass market which they have every right to do. Nothing wrong with putting on a brass train show and inviting the some of the leading importers to show up but the 'organizers' could at least be a little bit more honest about their self-serving promotional / business aspects of the show. As a long time collector of brass locomotives I definitely will have no reason to be there!
For what its worth I believe promoting brass trains is definitely a good thing and I'm all for it. But please be a little more up front with the public in the future. And finally, yes, I would think the vast majority of the displayed merchandise, etc. will be HO scale brass.
nyccollector1 posted:I might be mistaken but I think this 'Brass Expo' show is all about an elaborate self promotion scheme by a large brass dealer from Florida. This dealer has an rather impressive internet site which seems to attract well healed customers from around the world via the internet. From a business standpoint they seem to get top dollar for their brass models. Dan Glasure and his business partners are currently very aggressive in the brass market which they have every right to do. Nothing wrong with putting on a brass train show and inviting the some of the leading importers to show up but the 'organizers' could at least be a little bit more honest about their self-serving promotional/business aspects of the show. As a long time collector brass locomotives I definitely will have no reason to be there!
And yes, I would think the majority of the displayed merchandise, etc. will be HO scale brass.
As a non collector of brass I have followed with interest the write ups and video leading up to this show and I do not have any problem with the way the organizers are presenting this show, the business aspects are obvious to anyone looking to attend. JMO
colorado hirailer posted:Is this the same brass show as the guy who runs the Timonium show had at Gettysburg, Pa., once (and elsewhere)....it doesnn't sound like it.
Yes, in a roundabout way. Howard Zane is the "guy". Several years back, Howard sold his HO brass business, the 'Piermont Division' to Dan Glasure. Dan's business became "Brass Trains dot com.
Howard also ran/owned a show called "Brass Expo" (at various locales), the last being a revived version in 2015 at Timonium, Maryland. The 2016 version was scheduled for Chicago, and was (again) purchased from Howard by Dan Glasure. I thank that fact was mentioned in some of the promo stuff for the show.
Simon
Its not worth going if you dont get the VIP package
Matt Makens posted:Its not worth going if you dont get the VIP package
You let us all know how that work out for you, 
mwb posted:Matt Makens posted:Its not worth going if you dont get the VIP package
You let us all know how that work out for you,
They sent me a free ticket but it's only General Admission 
railroad-guy posted:mwb posted:Matt Makens posted:Its not worth going if you dont get the VIP package
You let us all know how that work out for you,
They sent me a free ticket but it's only General Admission
That's one more ticket than I got! If I were going to venture to Chicago, it would be for the March meet. I'm not interested in HO no matter how well done/rare it is, and though there may be other scales there, I think it is a safe bet that HO will dominate. Guess you'll have to brown bag your hors d'oeuvres. 
Simon
I'd be interested if it were still in Timonium.
Chicago is a bit much right after Indy and moreso since it's a multi-scale "expo".
Yves posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?...amp;feature=youtu.be
It looks like this year is going to be giant.
Yves
Since I'm re entering the hobby in HO and O scale (on a blue collar level) unfortunately the event is a bit too upper crust for my tastes. Give me some pork rinds and Pabst Blue Ribbon and I'd be right at home...though heads might turn in the Parlor Car at the classical music pieces I'd likely recognize and air-piano along...I'm not a complete philistine.
railroad-guy posted:mwb posted:Matt Makens posted:Its not worth going if you dont get the VIP package
You let us all know how that work out for you,
They sent me a free ticket but it's only General Admission
More than I got. All I got was a rock.
nyccollector1 posted:I might be mistaken but I think this 'Brass Expo' show is all about an elaborate self promotion scheme by a large brass dealer from Florida. This dealer has an rather impressive internet site which seems to attract well healed customers from around the world via the internet. From a business standpoint they seem to get top dollar for their brass models. Dan Glasure and his business partners are currently very aggressive in the brass market which they have every right to do. Nothing wrong with putting on a brass train show and inviting the some of the leading importers to show up but the 'organizers' could at least be a little bit more honest about their self-serving promotional / business aspects of the show. As a long time collector of brass locomotives I definitely will have no reason to be there!
For what its worth I believe promoting brass trains is definitely a good thing and I'm all for it. But please be a little more up front with the public in the future. And finally, yes, I would think the vast majority of the displayed merchandise, etc. will be HO scale brass.
On the contrary, I'm in no way "well healed"...in fact I'm quite the opposite as a nickel-and-dime-saving blue collar collector and have done much business with this dealer. Yes, they seem very aggressive at attracting estate collections and pulling classic brass pieces (and some quite obscure ones at that...and many relatively inexpensive) from out of the woodwork but their prices appear very reasonable and in-touch in this "down" and nearly dead brass market. That said, it's also possible they pay sellers and collectors according to the market rate (i.e. stories of collectors selling at less than their purchase prices) as goes the collectible market which I'm sure isn't always well received...as can be seen on their Online Brass Value Price Guide. I gather that their intent is to give the hobby more exposure that it richly deserves and a shot in the arm. Who knows...maybe someday those values will begin to go up again. A rising tide raises all boats.
just some quick pics from the expo. of course heavily HO centric but O 2 rail was 2nd on the list, i would say. Sn3, S scale, HOn3, Fn3 as well. i enjoyed it but i went with the intent to just view brass models, regardless of scale or even regardless if it was a railroad model. wonderful to see all the hand built models (the majority not for sale which was actually nice to see vs absolutely everything for sale) out there, correspondences from builders to importers in the archive booth, just all very interesting for me. As always, good to get together with fellow model RR's and friends in the chicago area. i did end up purchasing one item from allegheny scale models but i really did enjoy the expo format and being able to have access and face to face chats with importers and builders. PSC, Coach yard, Kohs, Key, Lee Marsh Models, Division Point, Eisenbahn-Canada, Glacier Park Models, PBL were all there among others. for me, it was worth the cost of entrance and the drive up to chicago. also a very nice SWAG bag.
On "to-do" list. but I decided to pass. No interesting brass cabooses produced, and I am tired of looking at everything you can have in HO .
Out of curiosoty, what makes the pictured seller above think a 1962 "hand built" (no imports are built with feet, to the best of my knowledge) C&O 4-6-4 would be worth $13,995? C&O 4-6-4's by PSC (or was it Overland?) seem to be in relative abundance in the market, going in the $1000 +/- range. Don't mean to be a wet blanket, just rather stunned.
Out of curiosoty, what makes the pictured seller above think a 1962 "hand built" (no imports are built with feet, to the best of my knowledge) C&O 4-6-4 would be worth $13,995?
Just guessing but maybe it due to the "one of only 12 produced!"?
