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And I thought Entenmann's was a Chicago Bakery. But I think its a stretch to call it dessert. As a kid we used to get their chocolate covered donuts - not really a fond recollection of taste and texture. 

Looked but could not find - I thought there was a recent run of Entenmann Pup trailers. Surprised to see Locos, box cars, tank cars and a caboose with their logo.

@ScoutingDad posted:

And I thought Entenmann's was a Chicago Bakery. But I think its a stretch to call it dessert. As a kid we used to get their chocolate covered donuts - not really a fond recollection of taste and texture.

Looked but could not find - I thought there was a recent run of Entenmann Pup trailers. Surprised to see Locos, box cars, tank cars and a caboose with their logo.

Jeff - NLOE (a Long Island train club) has done many club cars, and a good number of them have been varied rolling stock featuring Entenmann's label.

@ScoutingDad posted:

And I thought Entenmann's was a Chicago Bakery. But I think its a stretch to call it dessert. As a kid we used to get their chocolate covered donuts - not really a fond recollection of taste and texture.

Looked but could not find - I thought there was a recent run of Entenmann Pup trailers. Surprised to see Locos, box cars, tank cars and a caboose with their logo.

Entenmann's was founded in BayShore NY. As Mark said one of the local clubs NLOE has done several cars over the years.

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Geez Bob, I thought that only happens when you’re at Trainworld.😉

Gene

Trainland- Nassau Hobby......tomato- tomahhhto........

It's a good problem to live 15 minutes from both shops....👍

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I met @coach joe for lunch yesterday right down the street from Nassau Hobby in Freeport. After lunch and some laughs it was time to wander around Nassau for a bit. And of course a new refer followed me home.

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Bob

Gee… I wonder which of you picked a restaurant “right down the street from Nassau Hobby”???

And I’m sure that fellow slippery sloper and bad influence, @coach joe, would agree with you that it was just pure coincidence

That is a sweet reefer. But you need to be very careful… too many more cars and your Lawn-guy-lind food and drink train will get too long for your space limited layout - can you say expansion??? (sorry - couldn’t resist)

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@Apples55 posted:

Gee… I wonder which of you picked a restaurant “right down the street from Nassau Hobby”???

And I’m sure that fellow slippery sloper and bad influence, @coach joe, would agree with you that it was just pure coincidence

That is a sweet reefer. But you need to be very careful… too many more cars and your Lawn-guy-lind food and drink train will get too long for your space limited layout - can you say expansion??? (sorry - couldn’t resist)

I was simply looking out for Joe's well being after a long drive from S Carolina .....

Shot accepted.....😁

@RSJB18 posted:

Entenmann's was founded in BayShore NY. As Mark said one of the local clubs NLOE has done several cars over the years.

Trainland- Nassau Hobby......tomato- tomahhhto........

It's a good problem to live 15 minutes from both shops....👍

I'll take the factory-made Entenmann's over the factory-made Crispy Cream any time, but Being I was raised in the Los Angelous area. Absolutely nobody ever made a better confection than a helm's Brownie. And i could watch the trains crossing over the San Gabrial River bridge. leaving El monte while chowing down

There is a 1:55 scale of the normal vehicle you might be refering to G.     There is also a box truck which I disregarded because of my smaller layout.

I don't know if you " lived wrong " ........just a different time sir. 😉

Thanks for the sir moniker, but I was born on the wrong side of the Freeway for that.   I thought the rules were too sticked when I worked for them then but after talking to a present employee, I'm glad I'm out. but I did get to meet a lot of follow Model railroaders, and exchanged a lot of equipment I couldn't fine other wise

BACL?: York 2024 edition, day 3

Saturday:

Late in the day Friday I looked over a table in Silver hall replete with Kusan trains. Among them I spotted a pair of gondolas lettered with "Kusan" as their roadname. both rubber-banded together for $10. The seller claimed little knowledge of Kusan products, whereupon I offered some of my info on the subject. This resulted in an offer to take the entire table if no significant sales occurred by the close of the meet (actually noon) tomorrow, otherwise they'd go to auction and the hospice-bound owner he was selling them for might get "a penny on the dollar rather than five cents" and he'd rather they go to someone who knew what these were. While I would have liked to have taken him up on the offer, my collection is at the "playing Tetris to store stuff" stage and I said I could only pick out a portion of the offerings. Returning Saturday morning, I picked out a total of ten cars for $80. I might've picked out even more, but all the rest were duplicates of cars I already had (some of which are already dupes of previously acquired cars), and I still needed to pay my share of the gas and hotel bill.

The K-series cars were photographed in as-acquired condition, dust and all. I do intend to (gently) wash the carbodies (there's no metal in them save for the truck screws) once I have some free time.


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These two are the cars that caught my attention Friday in Silver Hall. While I have a small sub-collection of Kusan freight cars, I had not investigated their product line enough to have noticed these. They're K-series (i.e. the "cheap line") catalog number 309

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Next up is this forlorn undecorated K-series gondola. According to robertstrains.com, where I got all of my Kusan/KMT info from, this car does not have a catalog number. I'm just going to call it "300", since the number does not appear to be used in the series. Maybe if I stick a fictional reporting mark on it for giggles (I have a bunch of unpainted MTH cars from the warehouse auctions that may receive such treatment) I'll call it "KUSX 300"

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A K-series "Bexel" gondola, part of a set made for the Bexel drug company (whose existence is...I dunno what happened to them) Robertstrains.com calls it by its road number 5066. The set number is KF-1015, so I might inventory it by that number much like the RailKing set cars I have. This car and the one above were re-shot indoors after discovering the photos I took outside were out-of-focus (I didn't notice the camera had set its focus on the shrubbery behind the car and it didn't become obvious till I had downloaded them to my laptop..after nightfall.

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K-series hopper "General Electric/GE Lamps" number 603. The outlet doors on this one are missing. Maybe replacements exist as K-Line parts in the possession of Trainz (they acquired Brasseur's parts inventory)

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K-series hopper "Chicago & Eastern Illinois" number 605. I have a covered version of this car, which apparently had a different catalog number (even though the road number is the same)

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B&O "Sentinel". A higher end car carried over from the Auburn Model Toys (AMT) line by Kusan. Catalog number is 9003
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A close-up of the coupler on these cars. A bit more prototypically-shaped than the usual "lobster claw". The release mechanism works more like the full-size ones, consisting of a sliding pin that you push up to unlatch the coupler, much like the pin on the prototype. Once released, you have to push the pin down to latch the knuckle closed.

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Erie boxcar, from the Kusan/AMT 8000 series, catalog number 8003. Curiously, the trucks have a different release mechanism more like Lionel's

KMT 6100 reefer
This reefer is from the Kris Model Trains (KMT, by Andy Kriswalus) line that superceded Kusan in 1967. Catalog number is 6100, and the original box is present in fine shape (but the photo I took of the car sitting atop it was out-of focus)

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And lastly is this K-series Nickel Plate gondola, the only one that had it's original box (missing the flaps on one end, naturally. Two photos of the graphics printed on the box sides above/below:

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Returning to Orange hall I finished up my purchasing with a couple of "presents" for my Lima UK Class 33 diesel: a pair of pickup rollers for its unpowered truck, and a ERR Mini Commander ('cause there's no way this loco will be pulling enough weight to overload one).

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One last straggler, only mentioned because I was looking for one two Yorks ago: I found the K-Lionel caboose at the Fall '23 show, now here is the matching boxcar. I saw one at the Spring 2023 York show but didn't think about it till after we had left the meet Saturday. I saw this one on Ebay a few weeks ago and put it on my watchlist. Post-York, it was still there so I pulled the trigger. Curiously, the "sprung" trucks are fake, but the transverse brake rigging beneath the bolsters is modeled. Not sure if this was a late K-Line design or just Lionel's. For context, I'm building a "theme train" comprised of cars with the logos of various players in the O Gauge industry, so these two pieces fit in with the K-Line section of the consist.

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Like @RSJB18 posted previously we met for lunch the other day and ambled over to Nassau Hobby and like Bob I picked up a custom run Great South Bay Brewery reefer and some custom run ore cars, 2 different LIRR schemes and a NYC Subway.  I also received a Weaver 20TH Century Ltd pullman just before leaving for New York.  Pictures to follow at a later date.

@coach joe posted:

Like @RSJB18 posted previously we met for lunch the other day and ambled over to Nassau Hobby and like Bob I picked up a custom run Great South Bay Brewery reefer and some custom run ore cars, 2 different LIRR schemes and a NYC Subway.  I also received a Weaver 20TH Century Ltd pullman just before leaving for New York.  Pictures to follow at a later date.

Apparently I shouldn't have left you unsupervised.....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I found some Utah Railway gondolas on the 'bay for my Utah RSD that was a special run from Beth at Public Delivery Track. These are vintage Pola Maxi cars that were sold thru AHM. I installed some weaver diecast 3 rail trucks and we're in business!

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I also found a very nice Pola SP boxcar, added trucks and placed it in the consist as well.



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Don't see these come up but maybe once a year and inquiries on the forum as WTB never got any results, so I overbid on these and won. Winning is a relative term. Still, happy to have more Central Vermont rolling stock and my WTB list just got smaller. MTH 20-93333 50' High Cube Boxcars, CN/Central Vermont.

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I'm waiting for delivery of my first pre-war locomotive - a Lionel 262E from Trainz. It looks nice, is the right price, and is listed as "Functional." That's good because I don't want to load up the boys down in the shop with any more work. They've already got a backlog.

In other news, I found this Bead Reamer in the craft section at Walmart for $4.44. The spotless O27 track I got from Trainz is so new and tight that I was afraid I'd bend the track trying to widen the rails. An awl was too fat for the job, but this reamer is long and tapered so it's perfect. A bonus is that if I ever buy rusted track, this has a rough surface that could clean out the inside of the rails.

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My layout is western roads and I live in NorCal and grew up in Palo Alto, CA, the home of Stanford University. A quick comment about Silicon Valley: It seems everybody thinks San Jose is the original Silicon Valley is sort of incorrect. The roots are in Palo Alto and Santa Clara. Palo Alto - Fairchild, Hewlett Packard, Varian. Santa Clara, Intel, AMD and many more semiconductor developers .

These cities were serviced by Southern Pacific (SP) Peninsula Commuter Service (San Francisco to San Jose) and then Caltrain began taking over the service in 1980. With all that said, while I was in Junior high school and then high school in Palo Alto, I remember clearly the FM Train Master H24-66's that SP used to pull the commuters trains. They were perfect for commuter service as they had 2400HP and accelerated and stopped very quickly, just what ya want for commuter trains. SP also used EMD GP9's and SDP45 on the peninsula commuter trains, but they were no match for the Train Master acceleration and top speed.

That being the case, I already have the Lionel Legacy SP FM Train Master H24-66 #4809 that I got from a fellow OGR member. I was watching another SP FM Train Master H24-66  on eBay for about 3 months, and it never sold, so I made an reasonable and fair offer to the seller and they accepted. So now I have a second Lionel Legacy SP FM H24-66 Train Master #4803.It was used, but it looks and runs brand new! Here's some photos and a video.

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My layout is western roads and I live in NorCal and grew up in Palo Alto, CA, the home of Stanford University. A quick comment about Silicon Valley: It seems everybody thinks San Jose is the original Silicon Valley is sort of incorrect. The roots are in Palo Alto and Santa Clara. Palo Alto - Fairchild, Hewlett Packard, Varian. Santa Clara, Intel, AMD and many more semiconductor developers .

These cities were serviced by Southern Pacific (SP) Peninsula Commuter Service (San Francisco to San Jose) and then Caltrain began taking over the service in 1980. With all that said, while I was in Junior high school and then high school in Palo Alto, I remember clearly the FM Train Master H24-66's that SP used to pull the commuters trains. They were perfect for commuter service as they had 2400HP and accelerated and stopped very quickly, just what ya want for commuter trains. SP also used EMD GP9's and SDP45 on the peninsula commuter trains, but they were no match for the Train Master acceleration and top speed.

That being the case, I already have the Lionel Legacy SP FM Train Master H24-66 #4809 that I got from a fellow OGR member. I was watching another SP FM Train Master H24-66  on eBay for about 3 months, and it never sold, so I made an reasonable and fair offer to the seller and they accepted. So now I have a second Lionel Legacy SP FM H24-66 Train Master #4803.It was used, but it looks and runs brand new! Here's some photos and a video.

Southern Pacific FM Train Masters #4809 and #4803 new to the stable lash up pulling some freight.

Terrific, Scott. They look and run great together!

During a recent trip back to Long Island I met @RSJB18 for lunch and a trip to Nassau Hobby (NH).  NH has been busy doing custom runs with Lionel and MTH.  These ore cars are by Lionel.

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I believe they did 6 road numbers of each so I looked to see if any road number had personal significance.  Nothing on the LIRR cars but 1983 on the NYC Transit car was the year I graduated from Manhattan College and probably the last year I that I used the subway on a fairly regular basis.IMG_3245IMG_3246IMG_3247

The Great South Bay Brewery car is a MTH Premier 36' foot reefer.  It came in two road numbers, 2009 and a two digit number.  Not knowing the significance of the two digit number I opted for 2009, I believe the year it was founded.  Bob chose the same number.

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This Weaver James Bay Pullman in NYC 20th Century Limmited attire goes with two other Weaver cars to run behind me Weaver brass 20th Century Hudson.

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@coach joe posted:

During a recent trip back to Long Island I met @RSJB18 for lunch and a trip to Nassau Hobby (NH).  NH has been busy doing custom runs with Lionel and MTH.  These ore cars are by Lionel.

It's all my fault guys.....I had to get back to work and left Joe in the store unsupervised.......

Nice selections Joe. I like the LIRR ore cars too but have a couple on order from RMT so I'll wait for them.

Manhattan College? My daughter does their marketing with the company she works for. Go Jaspers!

Bob

@coach joe posted:

During a recent trip back to Long Island I met @RSJB18 for lunch and a trip to Nassau Hobby (NH).  NH has been busy doing custom runs with Lionel and MTH.  These ore cars are by Lionel.

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I believe they did 6 road numbers of each so I looked to see if any road number had personal significance.  Nothing on the LIRR cars but 1983 on the NYC Transit car was the year I graduated from Manhattan College and probably the last year I that I used the subway on a fairly regular basis.IMG_3245IMG_3246IMG_3247

The Great South Bay Brewery car is a MTH Premier 36' foot reefer.  It came in two road numbers, 2009 and a two digit number.  Not knowing the significance of the two digit number I opted for 2009, I believe the year it was founded.  Bob chose the same number.

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This Weaver James Bay Pullman in NYC 20th Century Limmited attire goes with two other Weaver cars to run behind me Weaver brass 20th Century Hudson.

Joe, you and Bob @RSJB18 are definitely a bad influence on each other. Reminds me of sitting in my friends basement in the ‘80s when the catalogs came in from Charlie Ro. There were 10-25 of us. So if you flipped a page without marking the order sheet; the guy next to you would say “You’re not going to order that?” Nuff said.

This is my new 262E from Trainz. I snuck this one from the doorstep straight to the train room. I'm only just now getting it to run reliably, and I don't want to make the big after-purchase sales presentation to my wife until I can demonstrate what a wise purchase it was.
This thing is a beauty and now I have something to pull my three pre-war cars that have latch couplers.

Questions/observations:
1. The Trainz description said it features die-cast frame, a die-cast steamchest, metal boiler, and the tender features tinplate construction. Sorry for the dumb question: is this engine considered to be tinplate?

2. When I first tried this on O27 it either stalled in the middle of the turn and I had to push it, or it flew off the track if I let it go fast enough to make it through the turns. Is this not meant for O27?  I've since lubricated it more, and the wheels seem to turn freely as I roll it along the track. The video below is on Fastrack O36.

3. This has a 3-position e-unit. I've had a lot of trouble with it buzzing so I sprayed contact cleaner up into the e-unit from the bottom and down through the slot in the switch above. Now it seems to run pretty reliably if I keep that switch to the right. The direction control on my CW80 or throttling off-on seems to work, but it sometimes slows down and dies, I think after losing contact over a switch when I'm running it on my regular layout.

4. An article at www.tcatrains.org showed a photo of this with the copper piping and mentioned this was the 1933 version. Then it showed the 1935 version with black wheels, nickel instead of copper, and a different arrangement of piping. It didn't mention a 1934 version, if any. Is this then the 1933 version?

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Starting to get a little more modern diesel in my collection. Scored a what looked to be new Chessie System sd40-2 made by Weaver. Heck the snow plows were still sealed. And found some right of way intermodal cars. These were rough and needed tlc and trucks for one car. But, the good folks at Trainz had all of the above priced right. Then I found a new in the box Atlas Chessie caboose on the Bay to go along with this consist. PXL_20240512_233346905PXL_20240512_233343723PXL_20240512_233324482PXL_20240512_233339426PXL_20240512_233332234

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@RSJB18 posted:

It's all my fault guys.....I had to get back to work and left Joe in the store unsupervised.......

Nice selections Joe. I like the LIRR ore cars too but have a couple on order from RMT so I'll wait for them.

Bob

And the most amazing part… I had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it

@coach joe posted:

During a recent trip back to Long Island I met @RSJB18 for lunch and a trip to Nassau Hobby (NH).  NH has been busy doing custom runs with Lionel and MTH.  These ore cars are by Lionel.

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That is quite the haul, Joe, but it will teach you to break bread with bad influences like Bob

I have picked up a couple of Nassau’s custom runs. They did a nice pair of LIRR fish belly hoppers a few years ago. At some point, if I can find replacement coal loads, I think I will change the load to ballast (I regularly saw hoppers full of ballast when I was riding Metro North).

P.S. I must say, I didn’t know they did much mining on Lawn-guy-lind!!!

@Apples55 posted:

And the most amazing part… I had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it

That is quite the haul, Joe, but it will teach you to break bread with bad influences like Bob

I have picked up a couple of Nassau’s custom runs. They did a nice pair of LIRR fish belly hoppers a few years ago. At some point, if I can find replacement coal loads, I think I will change the load to ballast (I regularly saw hoppers full of ballast when I was riding Metro North).

P.S. I must say, I didn’t know they did much mining on Lawn-guy-lind!!!

Don't think for one minute that your name didn't come up during lunch....All good things of course......🤪🤪🤪🤪

And as far as mining goes....one of the largest sand mines was in Port Washingon for many years. Much of the concrete in NYC skyscrapers was made with this sand.

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It's a golf course now....⛳️⛳️

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Plenty of mining on Lawn Guy Land, sand mining that is.  Colonial Sand and Stone hauled quite a bit of the north shore into the city to make the concrete that built Manhattan.  There's even a Sand Mining Monument in Port Washington.

After Bob left Nassau Hobby I swear I heard a Brooklyn accent.

The James Bay Pullman is all Donnie's fault no help from Paul on that one either.

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Wow some wonderful finds guys! I like them all and would love to share some with you, but it will have to wait until we get settled.

I have coming a Millhouse TT coming along with some TTX well cars, and yesterday I fallowed coach Joe's lead and went to the dollar store and picked up a couple autos for $5 each.

Oh by the way Coach I agree 1983 is a great year! Thats the year I graduated from High School!

I hope you all have a great week!

Here is my contribution. I bought these garage tools from the "GMP Parts Dept" line. I found these on eBay from Sabes Hobby House out of Austrailia. This is an alternative to the hard to find Snap On set.

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These went into my speed shop located in an abandoned engine house. A bit of a stretch but it could happen.

This overview pic from left to right. The 1st Mercedes is getting a new high performance engine installed. The 2nd Mercedes is on jacks and getting new racing tires. The Corvette is getting the mufflers cut off to be replaced by Glasspacks. Finally the Cobra is getting an oil change and new battery.

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Here is the view inside the engine house.

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@RSJB18 posted:

Don't think for one minute that your name didn't come up during lunch....All good things of course......🤪🤪🤪🤪

Well, if my name was the only thing that came up at lunch, that’s probably a good thing!!!

@coach joe posted:

After Bob left Nassau Hobby I swear I heard a Brooklyn accent.

The James Bay Pullman is all Donnie's fault no help from Paul on that one either.

Really, Joe… you’ve been down south too long. You must be very mistaken about the Brooklyn accent - your wallet couldn’t afford my voices long distance rates (not to mention the additional Lawn-guy-lind taxes and surcharges ).

Hey,hey. I'm just innocently over here building my train empire. I'll take FULL responsibility for my last purchase. But ..I'm sure if I dig deep it was somehow Paul or Coach Joe's influence and fault. 😂

Dear Donnie;

And what, may I ask, have I done to you (well, recently anyway)???

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Here is my contribution. I bought these garage tools from the "GMP Parts Dept" line. I found these on eBay from Sabes Hobby House out of Austrailia. This is an alternative to the hard to find Snap On set.

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These went into my speed shop located in an abandoned engine house. A bit of a stretch but it could happen.

This overview pic from left to right. The 1st Mercedes is getting a new high performance engine installed. The 2nd Mercedes is on jacks and getting new racing tires. The Corvette is getting the mufflers cut off to be replaced by Glasspacks. Finally the Cobra is getting an oil change and new battery.

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Steve, that is a great way to use a engine house! I took one of mine and turned it into a bar! LOL

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