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Well I decided to take my 6-8003 MPC engine for a spin and found out the sound of steam is not functioning correctly. With the engine and tender are on the track and the single wire NOT connected, it makes static noise when power is applied.   I just replaced the 7 capacitors and still have same issue.  Are there any other thoughts in stopping the static? I can not find a schematic, but am thinking to replace transistors next. The transistor are hard to match. Anyone know the correct transistors for replacement?

The sounds should only be made when the single engine and tender are plugged in correct?

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The sound is like a constant loud static sound. The whistle will slightly come on occasionally but very short/briefly and random.  When I do press the whistle button it will sound or whistle like normal but static background noise continues. It is like the static sound of steam is on with no chuffing at a constant volume but it is not plugged into the engine wire.

This early S.O.S. is an analog system.  Unlike today's digitally recorded sounds S.O.S. generated approximations of the horn/whistle, bell, and steam chuff/diesel engine sounds using analog circuits.

Being a steam locomotive this engine would have the steam chuff sound in real life, and a synthetic one is generated by S.O.S.  This sound has to synchronize with the motion of the pistons, and the exhaust valves releasing steam from the cylinders.  This is where the wire from the tender to the loco comes in.

In most older Lionel steam locomotives there's a switch (known as a chuff switch) that is depressed every time the wheels rotate.  There's some question of whether the 6-8003 has one because the parts breakdown doesn't show it, however it must be there somewhere.

The wire from the tender to the loco, that you've left unconnected, brings in a signal from the chuff switch that is used to turn the steam sound on and off.   The reason I asked about the way the static currently sounds is because it's actually not static but the synthesized (crudely) steam exhaust sound, which is not chuffing because the wire is not connected.

Now, if it doesn't chuff after being connected then the connection inside the locomotive from the chuff switch to the wire going to the tender is probably open someplace.

In that case you'll have to take the boiler off the loco and see if you can find the broken connection.  Don't forget to check the tender side as well, because the break may be there instead

Good luck with the search for the source of the problem.

Mike

Last edited by Mellow Hudson Mike

The chuff switch is on the smoke unit piston. However if the wire is not plugged into the locomotive, there should not be any static (SOS sound) Only the whistle should sound with the wire not connected. So the circuit board is defective as you surmised. I would just replace the whole circuit board. PN 8002-T20. Best of luck if you are going to try to rebuild the board.

Last edited by Chuck Sartor

well, I am getting somewhat frustrated with this sos board and have not found the correct part that is causing me random whistle blows, etc. If I was to put in a electronic RR railsounds board does anyone have an idea on which one to purchase? Medium stream I am thing.  Maybe this would also make the sounds better to  the ear aswell. Also wondering if anyone else has done the same with their mpc steamers.

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