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 I have 2 PW ZWs, 1 KW, 1V, and 1Z transformer powering my layout.  Track power is provided by the ZWs and the KW.

The transformers are all plugged into 2 power strips.  One throttle on each ZW and 1 throttle on the KW power the tracks.  No other taps are used on these transformers.  the throttles are wide open, feeding into 3 TPC 300s.  The TPS output thru block controllers to the tracks.  All switches, accessories, and lights are powered by the V and  Z transformers.

My question is, what type and size electrical protection do I need?  I believe that there are, in fact, two different types of protection required to protect against excessive current draw, derailments, and other shorts, and spikes from the power supplies which can harm train electronics.  What size and type of protection should I use?  Is there a good printed reference on this subject? Do I need different protection for the V and Z transformers powering the switches, accessories, and lights?

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Dale H has it right--between the Trnsformer and the track.

The circuit breakers/fuses protect the transformer itself from damage due to Overcurrent.

The Transient Voltage Supressors[TVS] protect equipment circuit boards and fragile wire runs from Voltage Spikes, which emerge in the transformer and will not trip a breaker or blow a fuse. 

Works well with my TPCs linked to 180 PoHos. I routinely run TMCC and occasionally Conventional via Cab 1 remote with the Cab Base unplugged.

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Originally Posted by Dale H:

They are not common rectifiers, (more accurately bi directional 36 volt zener diodes) they are a TVS device for spike suppression mounted down stream of the breaker. They are wired across the common and center rail wire,just as if you are shorting them out. The circuit breaker is in series with the center rail wire.  

OK what amp breaker?Cant see from pics thnx.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Since it was specified in the text as a Mouser 655-w-28-XQ1A-10, one would have to assume it's a 10A breaker.

Mr gun man,Thanks for treating people like they are stupid when they ask a simple question.When building an electrical system or a system component,we work from what is called a schematic print.It is not normal procedure to attempt to extract the proper information out of a long series of written paragraphs.Information can me missed or improperly interpreted.Mr gun guy you are a hack.

Last edited by rockstars1989

Hello Nick

 

normally one would use 10 amp breakers or a fuse if desired.  This would be for a ZW or Kw.  However if using a starter set type 90 watt transformer,you could use a lower value one such as 8 or 5 amp.. The purpose of the breaker is really to protect the wire. Properly wired with sufficient gage buss sizes, the 10 amps breaker should protect it. The transformer itself should still have its own factory installed internal thermal breaker in good working order. This will protect the transformer. However it is much too slow to protect the wire IMO,thus we add another device.

 

Dale H

Originally Posted by Dale H:

Hello Nick

 

normally one would use 10 amp breakers or a fuse if desired.  This would be for a ZW or Kw.  However if using a starter set type 90 watt transformer,you could use a lower value one such as 8 or 5 amp.. The purpose of the breaker is really to protect the wire. Properly wired with sufficient gage buss sizes, the 10 amps breaker should protect it. The transformer itself should still have its own factory installed internal thermal breaker in good working order. This will protect the transformer. However it is much too slow to protect the wire IMO,thus we add another device.

 

Dale H

Thank you Dale I will be adding this system.

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