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I am working on repainting the walls of my train room. They were a robins egg  blue. They are now a much more vivid cobalt blue, perfect for adding clouds. I even managed to successfully create a haze effect down to the intended horizon. So far, so good! 

 

Now for the clouds... I did some reading here and elsewhere on the web before trying my hand on some practice cardboard. After 2 concerted attempts at multiple clouds with latex paint and brushes, about all I can say that I'm impressed with is my lack of artistic ability. It hasn't been for lack of trying! Good thing I went with the practice cardboard first! I'd say my efforts probably pass the 25' test, but nothing closer. At this point, I ready to forget traditional brushes and try airbrushing and stencils. I have a Paasche H brush already, so I figure I'm not going to be out anything but the stencils, and those I can make. Has anyone tried this? Any luck? What worked best for you? Have you used regular household latex paint (bought by the gallon at your local big box or paint store)? I have about 75feet total of wall to cover. Paint colors besides white? Can I tint the white with acrylics to slowly darken the shade? How best and how far to thin the paint? Other suggestions and ideas?

 

Chris

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Those who paint clouds realistically are few and far between. Most either come off looking like petrified cotton, are all lined up in rows, or are painted in way too many multiples. A few light, wispy clouds are all that are needed to add realism to a painted sky. Below are a few photos of backdrop clouds on my former layout.

 

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I agree with the less is better approach. A few wispy clouds is all you need. I had to go back and paint over many of the clouds to get the effect I wanted. It's easy to overdo the number of clouds.

 

By the way, clouds tend to be more realistic when flatter on the bottom and "fluffier" on top. That helps eliminate the floating cotton candy look. Also, small groups of clouds here and there look better than equally spaced clouds all over the sky. 

 

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I decided to try something a little different before I tackle the fluffy variety again. The other day we had an absolutely beautiful set of cirrus clouds roll in high above the puffy stuff. It looked like someone just took a wide paint brush and just lightly dragged it through the sky. I don't remember anyone trying these before, so here's my take. And I do agree: Less is more. 

 

The room with cobalt blue on top, white on bottom.

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Feathering in the haze.

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Cirrus added.

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Cirrus added to another wall.

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The game plan is to come up with a viable means for painting the puffy stuff (More reading and experimenting, test out the stencils) then to add them on top of what you see here.

 

Thoughts?

 

Chris

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Wow! That video just blew my mind! I think it will take me a bit longer than"tomorrow" to show you my "best efforts".

 

Next question: What was he using for paint? I'm going to presume acrylics, but that's just a guess. What colors besides titanium white? I'm thinking a black, and then he blended the 2 for the various shades of gray. What else am I missing?

 

More thoughts: He does an absolutely fantastic job. However, he is also working on a canvas roughly 24x30". That's fine for him. He covered that in ~5 minutes at superspeed. How long did it actually take him? I have 70 plus feet of wall to deal with. I'll be dead before I cover all that!

 

Chris

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Bob Ross, as much as I like him and his way of painting, isn't actually painting but doing just a few tricks. Take a better look: his bushes are the same as his clouds, it's all about blending dots of paint, tamponed on a surface the way decorators do.

I always wondered why the man apparently never painted a human figure, a face or even an animal. The latter he provided only tree branches for where 'his little friends' could sit on..

I think you'll learn a lot more by studying paintings, old masters and modern.

Mixing colors is essential. Study the effect of contrasting colors, and experiment on blending. Modesty is the word, it's supposed to be a back ground, not a distraction.

Don't get to impressed by all these magical videos. PC screens and tv's give that idea that paint is brought on a canvas like an airbrush, and blending is a smooth success in one.

BTW, they usually mix their acrylics with some medium, a retarding gel which is very helpful when you're blending, as acrylic dries up rather quickly.

I do favour oils anyway. The process is slower but that gives you time to work longer.

Last but very important: buy some good quality brushes and paint. Cheaper acrylics, or latex wall paint look rather dull after they dried up. And cheap oil paints, I think these should be banned.

 

Originally Posted by Jumijo:

Those who paint clouds realistically are few and far between. Most either come off looking like petrified cotton, are all lined up in rows, or are painted in way too many multiples. A few light, wispy clouds are all that are needed to add realism to a painted sky.

 

 

I can only agree with that. May be it's compatible somehow with diorama's and train lay outs, as often there's simply too much. That's a lesser problem with 'tin plate' lay outs I think, their charm is laying in the amount of engines, cars, presenting the whole Lionel catalogue from the thirties so to speak. To much of a drama on a modern realistic lay out can be killing, on the table as well on the background.

 

Kieffer

Originally Posted by scale rail:

Remember. less is more. I like the look of wispy clouds. I simply used cans of spray paint to make my clouds. I you don't like the way they look at first just paint over them with blue and do them again. Don

 

That's an amazing bridge Don! Must be great fun to see an engine passing there I think.

Kieffer

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