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I decided to challenge myself by seeing if I could build an enormous freight car to carry a special container load that I designed a while ago. As always, the design started with a detailed 3D model in Fusion 360.

00 fusion drawing of flatcar

To add strength and weight, I designed the car around a section of metal strapping. I bought one large piece of perforated stock at my local hardware store, cut it down with a Dremel tool and screwed the car body around it.

01 using steel strap as frame

Here's what the deck of the completed 89ft car looks like. I suppose I could have added a wooden deck or other details, but since I planned to put a large container load on top, it didn't seem necessary. For strength and simplicity (since a long thin resin part would be impractical), the entire carbody is printed in three large sections of ABS filament.

02 bare flatcar deck

Here's the container load I devised: four 20ft "Stac Pac" auto transportation containers. GM used these to transport big Buicks and Cadillacs, 3 at a time, back in the 1980s. You can see that the car incorporates clips that grab on to the Stac Pacs on the bottom, similar to what the actual cars used.

03 test fitting stac pac containers

I designed in some resin details on to the ends of the car, reusing some of the models and hole sizes that I developed for my 53ft Thrall Coilshield cars (which I did a writeup on a few weeks ago). I also reused the 3D printed roller bearing trucks from that same project, albeit with a longer coupler shank to accommodate the car's colossal length (a full 22" from coupler face to face!).

04 Gluing in brake detail and grabirons

After gluing and screwing the entire car together, it was time to decide on a livery. I had some CSX decals and dark red paint left over from the Coilshield project so I decided to use that.

05 Painting the model

Applying decals was relatively easy despite having to work upside down.

06 Appling CR decals

Here's the finished car on the layout! The decals don't photograph well but are visible when you look at the car from a low angle.

07 Finished flatcar on layout

Here's the 89ft flatcar with all the Stac-Pacs onboard. The long couplers and inset trucks allow the flatcar to track well on O72 curves, although it swings inward like a large passenger car would and is extremely tall. If you've ever seen a real auto carrier car up close, they are HUGE!

08 Finished flatcar with Stac Pac load

As my friend Kris asked me when he saw it, "does it fit on your layout?" It's a tight squeeze in places, but the super long flatcar DOES fit. It even makes the height clearance on this MTH bridge. Unfortunately, the overpasses on the outer loop are about 1/4" too short to allow passage, so this car is restricted to just the one loop.

09 Height clearance of Stac Pac car

I still have to paint and decal all of the Stac Pac containers, but in the meantime I am running the prototype as is. I have an improved "Mark 2" flatcar under development which fits together a little nicer. You can see the car running on the inner loop, behind the Rock Island AB6 diesel, in this video which I recently featured in "Front End Friday". Hope you enjoyed reading along and stay tuned for an update some time in the future!

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  • 01 using steel strap as frame
  • 02 bare flatcar deck
  • 03 test fitting stac pac containers
  • 04 Gluing in brake detail and grabirons
  • 05 Painting the model
  • 06 Appling CR decals
  • 07 Finished flatcar on layout
  • 08 Finished flatcar with Stac Pac load
  • 09 Height clearance of Stac Pac car
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Nice job!!

@R Whitley posted:

That's a cool project.... Great Job!

Thank you for the kind words! This is the LONGEST model that I have built so far, which was an interesting challenge on its own.

Did you get diagrams for this car or just guessed based on pctures?

Good question! The flatcar is mostly based on the F70 types used by the Southern Pacific in the 1970s. I couldn't find any good close up photos or dimensional drawings of those, so I consulted drawings of modern 89ft flatcars as well as military 89ft flatcars and extrapolated as best I could. I did take some liberties with details to simplify the design and reuse detail parts that I already had on hand. For a more scale look, you could cut down the grabirons, move the brake wheel to the very end of the car and glue pieces of sheet brass on the sides to represent the horizontal number boards. I personally like the car as it is, even if it is a mongrel of features.

For the Stac-Pac containers themselves, I derived the dimensions by looking at railroad loading gauge specs and, considering the height and width of the flatcar they sit on, used as much space as practical (which I presume is what GM did when they designed the originals). The containers have opening ends and full interiors which are sized to fit 1:48th (and smaller 1:43) scale autos.

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Over the past couple of days, I've had a little time to continue picking at this project. I painted all of the Stac Pac containers for my flatcar yesterday. Anyone want to venture a guess on what (semi-fantastical) roadnames I am planning to decal them for?

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I have also been working on building an improved version of the flatcar. The "Mark 2" 89ft flatcar has improved fit and finish, stronger clips for holding the Stac-Pac containers onboard, and even incorporates screw holes and fittings for scale coupler pockets.

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Nice!

My guess is Southern Pacific, Milwaukee Road, Rock Island, Conrail?

That's two out of four right!

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@coach joe posted:

I'm so glad you included this picture.  Having never seen a StacPac I was guessing 3 cars.  I wonder what advantage GM saw in the Stac Pac vs regular screened auto carriers?

Good question! The Stac-Pacs were introduced about the same time as the Vert-a-Pac experiment with the Chevy Vega. The Vert-a-Pac's tilting action left many things to be desired, but GM liked the idea of having at least their higher end cars protected from grime and dust during rail transport, and they already had the cranes and fork trucks to handle the heavy containers with. I've seen photos such as this one showing Stac-Pac flat cars mixed in with ordinary open sided auto racks: the nice containers carry the Caddies and Buicks while the "commuter cars" get the not-so-fresh air. Once fully enclosed auto racks became the norms, the Stac-Pacs were phased out.

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Thank you for the kind words! This is the LONGEST model that I have built so far, which was an interesting challenge on its own.

Good question! The flatcar is mostly based on the F70 types used by the Southern Pacific in the 1970s. I couldn't find any good close up photos or dimensional drawings of those, so I consulted drawings of modern 89ft flatcars as well as military 89ft flatcars and extrapolated as best I could. I did take some liberties with details to simplify the design and reuse detail parts that I already had on hand. For a more scale look, you could cut down the grabirons, move the brake wheel to the very end of the car and glue pieces of sheet brass on the sides to represent the horizontal number boards. I personally like the car as it is, even if it is a mongrel of features.

For the Stac-Pac containers themselves, I derived the dimensions by looking at railroad loading gauge specs and, considering the height and width of the flatcar they sit on, used as much space as practical (which I presume is what GM did when they designed the originals). The containers have opening ends and full interiors which are sized to fit 1:48th (and smaller 1:43) scale autos.

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Nice job ...... not to be picky, but as a point of information, 1:43 scale cars are larger than 1:48 scale cars, not smaller.

@Richie C. posted:

Nice job ...... not to be picky, but as a point of information, 1:43 scale cars are larger than 1:48 scale cars, not smaller.

Thank you for the compliment. Allow me to clarify my statement! Some 1:43 scale cars are bigger than other 1:43 scale cars. Take a look at this photo, we have from left to right a 1:43 Tucker Torpedo, a 1:43 scale Ford Mustang and a 1:48 scale Chrysler from a Lionel auto rack. The Mustang isn't much larger than the Chrysler despite being in a larger scale.

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As you can see in this photo, the Mustang and the Chrysler fit quite nicely, but the Tucker is a little too tall to fit anywhere. Fun fact, I have read that the top spot in the container was used primarily for convertibles and other low-height cars, with the heavier and taller cars in the bottom spot. Appropriately, the three slots in my model of the container get a little bit shorter as you go up.

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Getting back on track, the finished Stac-Pac containers are, well, back on the track!

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Here's a view from the other side of the car. After applying decals and letting the paint fully set, I sprayed on a single coat of Rustoleum Matte Clear to put the nice finished look on. I made my own decals for the "STAC-PAC" lettering. The white-on-black lettering looked better and was easier to cut out.

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Hope you enjoyed following along with this build. More projects to follow in the future!

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