@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Pat, do you know the answer to the disc driver question I asked here?
Dave it was the first J3a, 5444. It was cataloged with Boxpoks like the prototype but shipped with Scullins. After the uproar they offered a set of Boxpoks for those that wanted to swap drivers. A few years later 5433 in the Anniversary set came with Boxpoks.
https://www.railarchive.net/ny...tion/nyc5444_tdr.htm
https://www.railarchive.net/ny...on/nyc5433_nowak.htm
Pete
@harmonyards posted:Ron, I hope you don’t mind, I drew inspiration for the front pilot truck from your work,….I think this needs to be a SOP when doing these Hudson conversions……although I cheated a little to gain some flange height for whatever 3 rail track scenarios could be tossed at it,…your work is top shelf, and I only imitate your artistry ….😉
Pat
Aw shucks ! Thanks.
Ron H
@Norton posted:Dave it was the first J3a, 5444. It was cataloged with Boxpoks like the prototype but shipped with Scullins. After the uproar they offered a set of Boxpoks for those that wanted to swap drivers. A few years later 5433 in the Anniversary set came with Boxpoks.
https://www.railarchive.net/ny...tion/nyc5444_tdr.htm
https://www.railarchive.net/ny...on/nyc5433_nowak.htm
Pete
Pete, you come through again(and I believe as well you were the one that pointed this out to me the first time). What is really funny, I was explaining disc drivers and some of the stuff that I have come to know via being told by you, Pat, Rich Melvin, Hot Water, and probably a handful of others to one of the engineers(not the operating ones, the measure, diagnose, and such ones) today. I said in my limited knowledge that people like Pat & Pete would be able to explain exactly the differences between J1's, J2's, & J3's.
What was really interesting is that the engineer Bryan was really taken with my explanations of steam engines, diesels, how some things work between the two types(I described something Rich had told me about 765 pulling cars with a diesel, and the diesel pulling the cars with 765 just operating enough to not burden the diesel), and some of the changes from early steam to later steam. I had told him that if he wanted to take in a good steam experience, pop over to Strasburg. What was even more interesting, is that Bryan does want to pop out by Lancaster to take in some things that he has heard about, so maybe he will have some railroading fun. He's a good fellow.
It took a moment, but given the Central's tendency to swap drivers with wild abandon, have a #5444 with disc drivers.
https://nycshs.omeka.net/items/show/88842
It would make most people's eyes twitch (including mine) but I have seen that some Hudsons had mix and match drivers with the spoke, Boxpox, and Scullin Disc being traded between engines.
@naresar posted:It took a moment, but given the Central's tendency to swap drivers with wild abandon, have a #5444 with disc drivers.
https://nycshs.omeka.net/items/show/88842
It would make most people's eyes twitch (including mine) but I have seen that some Hudsons had mix and match drivers with the spoke, Boxpox, and Scullin Disc being traded between engines.
No need for eye twitching, as it was common practice as a roundhouse repair to switch out drivers with whatever was available in the same diameter…..this was due to chronic crank pin failures that would otherwise put a locomotive O/S. It didn’t matter about how it “ looked” …..it’s not a 63 Corvette The Central ( as all railroads are ) was a shipping company, job 1, move people and products from A to B. Towards the end of steam, the mindset was “whatever it takes” to get the machines out on the road to generate revenue,……Lionel hit the nail on the head with the mixed driver Hudsons they made, ….it is quite correct ….
Pat
Gotta love the Corvette reference Pat.
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Gotta love the Corvette reference Pat.
I thought Pat's reference was excellent as well, Dave!
@Mark Boyce posted:I thought Pat's reference was excellent as well, Dave!
One of the greatest things is both Pat and Pete's knowledge of the doings of the NYC. I don't know how many times I've popped onto a topic that either one was responding to in an effort to educate and or correct someone(maybe like me) about whatever the topic was directed about. One of the most reassuring for me was the mixing and matching of passenger cars whether they be Madison, Pullman, Heavyweights, or streamlined. That was one of the best topics in recent times and was something that made me smile as it helped with the last October York's purchase of some NYC coaches. I only wish I could have bought more, lol.
Guy I use to work with bought a brand new 63 split window Corvette at the dealership he worked at. Got married and sold it for a 4 door Malibu. He bought some Vettes later in life and still has one. But that 63 will be just a memory with what they are worth now.
Pat, she sure looks good running. I know your mostly into motive power posts. Interested to see where your going with that brass Caboose on the workbench. I purchased the same one a while back minus it’s trucks.
Is the Pittman to BIG? Not for Pat! 
If you aren't aware of Pat's innovative mounting adaptation of certain models... take a peek below.
"the 763 & the 700E (1990 model ) have to be shell mounted",…it has one centralized harness if it needs to come apart ,…..easy peasy…..I build them so they can be serviced…." AMEN to that... GEAUX PAT!
The shell is lined with Fire Rated Gasket Material... so, shorting is NOT going to happen! Clean, tight... accessible ...easy peasy!
This was my first 'modern' train purchase and I ran it for many, many years conventionally on Super-O. I never purchased the CAB1/Base1... went straight to Legacy when it came out and eventually made my way to Atlas track & turnouts (with tortoise machines). NOW, you know everything!
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:One of the greatest things is both Pat and Pete's knowledge of the doings of the NYC. I don't know how many times I've popped onto a topic that either one was responding to in an effort to educate and or correct someone(maybe like me) about whatever the topic was directed about. One of the most reassuring for me was the mixing and matching of passenger cars whether they be Madison, Pullman, Heavyweights, or streamlined. That was one of the best topics in recent times and was something that made me smile as it helped with the last October York's purchase of some NYC coaches. I only wish I could have bought more, lol.
Absolutely, especially during the war, trains had to be made up on the fly to meet demands as segments were added, the Trainmaster would pull ready equipment from wherever he could to meet demands of extra segments ( or extra ) of a given run, ….thus you would see many mixed bags of colorful cars,……also the reason you’d see locomotives like Mohawks on passenger trains, as these were dual purpose engines, and again the master could pull from available motive power from the ready tracks ( as in the case of Harmon) to meet the demands……so I often run mixed bags of cars. It looks cool, and is correct,…😁
Pat
I didn't know that Lionel had some a Hudson with mixed drivers, interesting.
@Dave_C posted:Guy I use to work with bought a brand new 63 split window Corvette at the dealership he worked at. Got married and sold it for a 4 door Malibu. He bought some Vettes later in life and still has one. But that 63 will be just a memory with what they are worth now.
Pat, she sure looks good running. I know your mostly into motive power posts. Interested to see where your going with that brass Caboose on the workbench. I purchased the same one a while back minus it’s trucks.
I’m three railing that caboose Dave, ….part of me, Pete, and Lou’s new frontier,….3 railing 2 rail brass stuff …..we enjoy making the 2 rail guys drink Pepto like milkshakes…..😉
Pat
@harmonyards posted:I’m three railing that caboose Dave, ….part of me, Pete, and Lou’s new frontier,….3 railing 2 rail brass stuff …..we enjoy making the 2 rail guys drink Pepto like milkshakes…..😉
Pat
I'll drink to that, Guinness though. Brass 2 rail to 3 rail cabooses, I like the sound of that.
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