Did Santa Fe ever have streamline passenger cars with red stripes?

@dmestan posted:

Hey all,
I'm looking at various used SF pass cars from Lionel, MTH, Williams, and besides the all aluminum cars there are models with a solid red strip along the side.  Was this ever done by the SF RR ?  I've done some online searches and haven't found any.
Thanks, Don

Have you contacted the Sant Fe Technical and Modeling Society?

No, the Santa Fe’s silver streamlined cars never had red stripes. The stripes are strictly the model train manufacturers’ creations.

@dmestan posted:

Hey all,
I'm looking at various used SF pass cars from Lionel, MTH, Williams, and besides the all aluminum cars there are models with a solid red strip along the side.  Was this ever done by the SF RR ?  I've done some online searches and haven't found any.
Thanks, Don

Here’s an old forum thread in which the consensus is that the ATSF did not have streamlined passenger cars with a red stripe.

https://ogrforum.com/...ta-fe-passenger-cars

What the ATSF did have was silver painted modernized heavyweights with the Warbonnet style stripping across the bottom sill on the short-lived Valley Flyer. Photos of the train in even black and white are hard to find, but this image gives the general idea of the USRA Pacific that was semi-streamlined and part of the first car.  The locomotive was made by several manufacturers in O, but the cars have only been done reasonably accurately in HO and N to the best of my knowledge.  Weaver did a set of streamlined cars to go with their locomotive in the paint scheme, but they are not remotely accurate.

ATSF Valley Flyer

@GG1 4877 posted:

What the ATSF did have was silver painted modernized heavyweights with the Warbonnet style stripping across the bottom sill on the short-lived Valley Flyer. Photos of the train in even black and white are hard to find, but this image gives the general idea of the USRA Pacific that was semi-streamlined and part of the first car.  The locomotive was made by several manufacturers in O, but the cars have only been done reasonably accurately in HO and N to the best of my knowledge.  Weaver did a set of streamlined cars to go with their locomotive in the paint scheme, but they are not remotely accurate.

Ah, but here's the rub of hope...

Weaver did the same thing when they made the B&O P7D in the popular classic Cincinnatian scheme.  And it is/was a very well done model in search of the complimentary and equally unique home-brewed passenger cars...a nice 5-car train.  They followed up with some cookie-cutter cars that bore no resemblance whatsoever to the prototypes...how droll.

Then, finally, Scott to the rescue!!!  In a stroke of gorgeous blue and gray dreaming-come-true, he not only issued the correct Cincinnatian cars in blue closely matching the Weaver P7D, in 2- and 3-rail versions for all the Weaver owners, but did his own version of the streamlined P7D for those so inclined for even closer replication.

Ergo, the precedent has been set for Scott (GGD) to do an accurate 5-car train to FINALLY complement Weaver's reasonably accurate model of their uniquely decorated Valley Flyer Pacific.  In fact, it would seem that there's a resurging interest in additional runs of GGD's HW passenger cars.   Santa Fe's were (as with the B&O's) uniquely home-grown in body and paint features...and those VERY interesting roof-top air conditioning features!

So, how about it, Warbonnet fans, frustrated Weaver Valley Flyer Pacific #1369 fans, GGD/3rd Rail fans, etc.?  A 3rd Rail redo of the engine...both Valley Flyer and parent 1337 class Pacifics, to boot...maybe?

I know, I know.  There's hardly any interest in Santa Fe anything anymore...right?  We can wish, hope, dream, ...grovel once again.  Why not?

KD

@John's Trains posted:

Here’s an old forum thread in which the consensus is that the ATSF did not have streamlined passenger cars with a red stripe.

https://ogrforum.com/...ta-fe-passenger-cars

Thanks John, I didn't see that