Being a farm boy who doesn’t like a good cold start. Got me wondering why not on a Lionel diesel locomotive. Legacy has an extended start with crew talk. Could Lionel program a second feature that turns on the element during an even more extended crew talk sequence to buy the element more time to build up smoke. Then once the sounds of the engine starts, crank the fan to full and let it rip and then back down bringing the fan to low speed once started. It would really bring another level of realism to a diesel start up. (Of course this would be for the non tier 4 final emission engines)
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Thats a fantastic idea! I love the Rev Up/Down feature on my MTH diesels to get the smoke rolling ( I don't have any Legacy diesels yet). A cold start feature would be awesome!
Brad
A starter feature would be nice, …as long as your finger is on the button, she won’t hit ….with a cool looking weak steam of smoke …..( what we call in the industry struggle smoke 🤪🤪🤪 ) then let roll out smoke when it fires off, then calm down…..let it knock and chatter until the oil pressure builds back up….
Pat
The next Vision Line diesel.
They kind of do that already since the smoke unit ramps up at startup to get smoke production sooner.
Additionally, I had one of the first gen legacy GP7's and smoke would increase when the locomotive accelerated or the labor was increased. Not huge amounts of smoke in either case, but a noticable increase.
I'd be happy with a fan motor, that makes zero noise like the ones in my TMCC stuff.
If the smoke fan motor makes noise, I replace it. For a lot of them, I use the MTH smoke motors.
@RickO posted:They kind of do that already since the smoke unit ramps up at startup to get smoke production sooner.
Additionally, I had one of the first gen legacy GP7's and smoke would increase when the locomotive accelerated or the labor was increased. Not huge amounts of smoke in either case, but a noticable increase.
I'd be happy with a fan motor, that makes zero noise like the ones in my TMCC stuff.
I too, have one of the first Legacy GP7s and with the smoke, it works that way. But never was a fan of smoking diesels, so I just turn off the smoke unit on them and I'm happy. Smoking steamers: Yes. Smoking diesels: No.
I like your idea! And, how can we make that "smoke" black?
@CNJ Jim posted:I like your idea! And, how can we make that "smoke" black?
Burn some tires.
Putting this one a vision line is a good idea as it would add a feature not on any others. But seems like it would be easy enough to program an element on without fan for a certain time and then fan full at start up. Last to keep cost invested low enough to include in legacy. Either a way I think it would be awesome and add huge realism to a start sequence to match the start up sounds they already do very well.
Forget the black smoke, this has been discussed a number of times. The only way you make black smoke is particulate matter that ends up coating everything in the room!
The smoke volume, OTOH, shouldn't be that difficult. When you start up, give the smoke heater about 10 seconds on a fairly high setting before starting the fan. Use this time for various "prep" sounds before the actual engine start. With the actual engine start, kick on the fan and you'll get a nice cloud of smoke to start. After a few seconds taper it off. With the current Legacy boards, this should all be software.
@gunrunnerjohn posted:Forget the black smoke, this has been discussed a number of times. The only way you make black smoke is particulate matter that ends up coating everything in the room!
The smoke volume, OTOH, shouldn't be that difficult. When you start up, give the smoke heater about 10 seconds on a fairly high setting before starting the fan. Use this time for various "prep" sounds before the actual engine start. With the actual engine start, kick on the fan and you'll get a nice cloud of smoke to start. After a few seconds taper it off. With the current Legacy boards, this should all be software.
I’m liking it!! Would be a sweet new feature, especially with it sounding like not a hard thing to add.
@Sparty1225 posted:I’m liking it!! Would be a sweet new feature, especially with it sounding like not a hard thing to add.
Don't hold your breath, but it would be a cool feature.