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Has anyone been experiencing any difficulty accessing and navigating the forum.  As always I have been able to access all of the other components of the OGR Website and any other website I choose to access on the internet but when I try to access and navigate the forum it takes at least one minute or more to get on the forum and least that long to go from one topic to another.  Also, I can't post even after signing in.  I have a high speed cable internet connection and my browser is Firefox.  Also, I have a premium membership.  My difficulties did not begin until I signed up for the premium membership.  Any suggestions or assistance would be greatly appreciated.  I am posting this from a separate network and computer. 

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John,

We don't to pop-ups! If you are getting pop-ups you've got a browser hijacker in action.

And when I click on anything on the forum i get redirected to some kind of a survey for OGR members. I'm going to try reloading Chrome to see if that works.

This is definitely NOT us! We do not have ANY survey in place on the forum anywhere. You have a browser hijacker embedded in your browser that is doing this. WE are NOT doing it!

 

This is what the forum screen SHOULD look like:

 Forum Screen

 

PS:  Could you guys please change the method to attach a video exactly as how you attach a picture.

You can already do that!

 

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Last edited by Rich Melvin
Originally Posted by Bob Karas:

I have a problem. When I go to anywhere on OGR web sight it works with no problems,but when I go to the forms section it hangs and it wants to load www.addpeepshosted.com first and then about 1 min later it goes to the section on the form I want. I use firefox and no Java loaded going thru comcast. I have 3 computer in house and they all do the same thing. Two of the computers have not been used for 2 months.

This is precisely the problem I am having yet Rich advised me the problem lies within my computer.  Its obvious it is not my computer if other people are having the exact same problem.  I can access everything else on the OGR site easily except the forum.  To my untrained eye it seems quite apparent there is a problem at Hoopla and I think it would behoove OGR to have them remedy the situation.  Quite honestly if I just hadn't signed on as a premium member I wouldn't care so much but since I paid for a service I would like to have the convenience of using it.  By the way I added Googlechome as a browser and there is just a slight improvement.  Instead of taking one or two minutes to switch topics or forums it now takes 30 seconds to a minute.  Not good.  

OKHIKER, I can't fix something that is not broken. I simply do not see the problem you are seeing! And thousands of other members do not see it either. I have to assume that the problem lies on your end somewhere because the forum is working perfectly fine for 99.99% of the members who post here.

 

I don't know what the problem might be, but I will get the Hoopla Tech Support folks involved here.

Posted to Hoopla tech Support moments ago:

 

Please take a look at this thread in our Tech Support forum. One member has posted a screen shot that is definitely NOT our site, yet our content shows in the page. The left side menu and the ads at the right and bottom are NOT ours.

 

Others are having an issue with a wait for our banner ads to be served. I understand the banners are not your issue - the banners come from an amazon.com server. But I thought you might have an idea as to what might be going on here.

 

 


 

 

As soon as I hear something from the Hoopla guys I'll update this thread.

"It's not my computer!" is a little like saying,"It's not my child!". An answer is as easy as running a security scan on your computer. I received a reminder from Java that current updates are available. I ignored it, all the while blaming my problems on this website.

To make a long story short. Run the scans, install the updates. You should then notice a big improvement.

As usual, the Hoopla Tech Support staff responded within MINUTES!

 

Here's what they posted:

 

I'm not seeing any issues from that thread. The user who reported a "popup" was just getting an in-browser message about needing to update an extension. I don't think that is any indication of a "hijacker". It's just a normal popup coming from the browser. You should see that the site URL is your site. Additionally, the ads on the left and right appear to be coming from the browser, as well. I'm guessing the user has a browser extension installed that is causing those to appear.

 

Also, it's worth mentioning that while Hoop.la may use Java on the server, there is absolutely no Java required in the client/browser. Thus, installing/updating Java in the browser won't have any impact on a user's Hoop.la experience. JavaScript is a language that is built-in to the browser, and exists completely independently of Java. As a result, the only thing that may impact a user's experience is either upgrading the web browser or trying out a different web browser.

 


 

I learned something with that response, namely the Java-related information. Any day I learn something new is a good day!

Further response from Hoopla Tech Support regarding the page load response times I asked about:

 

I just took a quick look at a snapshot of your response times for the past 2 days, and on average, pages are loading in 125ms (which should be quite acceptable). There do appear to have been a few slow-ish requests, but those equate to less than 0.01% of all requests. Certainly, it shouldn't be anything that impairs a user's ability to use and navigate the site (beyond just the duration of perhaps one single slow request). The fact that certain users are having isolated issues is also a likely indication that it's not a server-side performance issue.

 


 

Originally Posted by Happy Pappy:

"It's not my computer!" is a little like saying,"It's not my child!". An answer is as easy as running a security scan on your computer. I received a reminder from Java that current updates are available. I ignored it, all the while blaming my problems on this website.

To make a long story short. Run the scans, install the updates. You should then notice a big improvement.

So sorry Happy Pappy but you are dead wrong.  Performed the security scan and updated Java and absolutely no improvement.  Also,as Hoopla indicated updating Java would have no impact.  Like I said, I did it anyway but no effect.  Looks like you were off base. 

 

Also, it is curious that an Amazon.com server is responsible for the add banners.

 

 Again, I will state it as respectfully as I can but I am not the only person having this problem.  Bob Karas has also posted of an identical problem.  

 

I appreciate the very rapid response of both Rich and Hoopla and I am satisfied the core of the problem does not reside with Hoopla but I am wondering if the issue might be at the Amazon.com server.  It wouldn't hurt to have them take a look.

Originally Posted by OKHIKER:
Originally Posted by Happy Pappy:

"It's not my computer!" is a little like saying,"It's not my child!". An answer is as easy as running a security scan on your computer. I received a reminder from Java that current updates are available. I ignored it, all the while blaming my problems on this website.

To make a long story short. Run the scans, install the updates. You should then notice a big improvement.

So sorry Happy Pappy but you are dead wrong.  Performed the security scan and updated Java and absolutely no improvement.  Also,as Hoopla indicated updating Java would have no impact.  Like I said, I did it anyway but no effect.  Looks like you were off base. 

 

Also, it is curious that an Amazon.com server is responsible for the add banners.

 

 Again, I will state it as respectfully as I can but I am not the only person having this problem.  Bob Karas has also posted of an identical problem.  

 

I appreciate the very rapid response of both Rich and Hoopla and I am satisfied the core of the problem does not reside with Hoopla but I am wondering if the issue might be at the Amazon.com server.  It wouldn't hurt to have them take a look.

I seed Bob's computer is now running hot, straight and normal for accessing the Forum.  Congratulations.  I am going to give this a rest for now and hopefully when I come back mine will be OK too.

Originally Posted by Bob Karas:

Rich,  I don't know what you did but it is working fine right now.

I did absolutely NOTHING.


 

 

Originally Posted by OKHIKER:
Also, it is curious that an Amazon.com server is responsible for the add banners.

What is "...curious..." about Amazon servers handling the banner ads? They have one of the most robust IT infrastructures on the net, with three layers of redundancy and backup and massive bandwidth capabilities. That's why the performance of the banners is always so fast and reliable.

Last edited by Rich Melvin
Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:

John,

We don't to pop-ups! If you are getting pop-ups you've got a browser hijacker in action.

And when I click on anything on the forum i get redirected to some kind of a survey for OGR members. I'm going to try reloading Chrome to see if that works.

This is definitely NOT us! We do not have ANY survey in place on the forum anywhere. You have a browser hijacker embedded in your browser that is doing this. WE are NOT doing it!

 

This is what the forum screen SHOULD look like:

 Forum Screen

 

PS:  Could you guys please change the method to attach a video exactly as how you attach a picture.

You can already do that!   WHERE??????????????

 

 

Well, well, well.  After shoveling out from our most recent snowfall I returned to my computer and now find that, I too, can now access the OGR forum.  My rebirth to the forum took place just shortly after the other poster who complained about the same problem was able to access the forum.  Remarkable coincidence that two different individuals supposedly having the same personal computer problem were cured almost simultaneously.  Yep, truly remarkable.

 

In regards to my statement that I found it "curious" that there was an amazon.com server involved with OGR's ad banners I made this statement purely because I was unaware they had anything to do with them.  There was no implied criticism intended of anyone or any server. 

Last edited by OKHIKER
Originally Posted by OKHIKER:

Remarkable coincidence that two different individuals supposedly having the same personal computer problem were cured almost simultaneously.  Yep, truly remarkable.

Are you implying that I did something to fix this and I'm trying to hide it? If so, you are totally off base. I can assure you that I did NOTHING to change anything on this forum today. I've been busy working on images for Run 271 since my last post here and just checked into the forum again a moment ago. I have no access to the program code that runs this forum anyway. That's all in Hoopla's domain.

 

Maybe my alerts to the Tech Support folks at Adpeeps and Hoopla did some good, I don't know. I have not had an answer to my Adpeeps tech support ticket yet.

 

And just so we're on the same track plan here, you and a couple of other people were the only folks complaining of this problem. When 2,000+ people have no problem accessing this forum and two or three do, we can be pretty sure it is not the fault of the server or forum software.

Last edited by Rich Melvin
Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
Originally Posted by OKHIKER:

Remarkable coincidence that two different individuals supposedly having the same personal computer problem were cured almost simultaneously.  Yep, truly remarkable.

Are you implying that I did something to fix this and I'm trying to hide it? If so, you are totally off base. I can assure you that I did NOTHING to change anything on this forum today. I've been busy working on images for Run 271 since my last post here and just checked into the forum again a moment ago. I have no access to the program code that runs this forum anyway. That's all in Hoopla's domain.

 

Maybe my alerts to the Tech Support folks at Adpeeps and Hoopla did some good, I don't know. I have not had an answer to my Adpeeps tech support ticket yet.

 

And just so we're on the same track plan here, you and a couple of other people were the only folks complaining of this problem. When 2,000+ people have no problem accessing this forum and two or three do, we can be pretty sure it is not the fault of the server or forum software.

 Rich,

       I am not implying that you did a thing but as you stated you made some inquiries to both Hoopla and Adpeeps.  Apparently, shortly after you contacted them the problem myself and at least one other member were experiencing was rectified.  There may have been others.  IF, and I mean IF, any action was taken it would have obviously been taken by them and not by you.  Problems with computer software and servers occur every day and after inquiries are made they are usually solved with a sense of professionalism. I do not think the well meaning inquiries into this problem warranted the intensity of your final response.  I, for one, would appreciate a sense of emotional equilibrium on the part of the webmaster 

Fair enough."Emotional equilibrium..." achieved. 

You obviously have a good understanding of what goes on behind the scenes here. You understand that Hoopla and Adpeeps have a LOT more control over the technical performance of this forum than I do. Most people don't understand that and think I can control everything. I have been accused of trying to cover up flaws in the past and thought it was happening again.

Ironically, those who have accused me of covering up problems don't understand that we WANT to know about problems, because that's how we (Hoopla and OGR) figure out how to make the on-line experience better for everyone. Many of the problems and suggestions that have been posted here have ended up in the Hoopla software that drives this forum. In fact, I have submitted so many Hoopla Tech Support tickets with ideas and solutions in them that I have earned the unofficial title of "Senior Bug Exterminator" on the Hoopla Tech Support Forums. Here's a screen grab from their Tech Support forum:

Hoopla Forum Screen

All's well that ends well. Thanks for being a part of the OGR Forum.

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Last edited by Rich Melvin
Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:

Fair enough."Emotional equilibrium..." achieved. 

You obviously have a good understanding of what goes on behind the scenes here. You understand that Hoopla and Adpeeps have a LOT more control over the technical performance of this forum than I do. Most people don't understand that and think I can control everything. I have been accused of trying to cover up flaws in the past and thought it was happening again.

Ironically, those who have accused me of covering up problems don't understand that we WANT to know about problems, because that's how we (Hoopla and OGR) figure out how to make the on-line experience better for everyone. Many of the problems and suggestions that have been posted here have ended up in the Hoopla software that drives this forum. In fact, I have submitted so many Hoopla Tech Support tickets with ideas and solutions in them that I have earned the unofficial title of "Senior Bug Exterminator" on the Hoopla Tech Support Forums. Here's a screen grab from their TechSupoprt forum:

Hoopla Forum Screen

All's well that ends well. Thanks for being a part of the OGR Forum.

Rich,

      Thank you for your very even handed and congenial response to my last posting.  I really do appreciate the time you expended into making inquires with your servers and  responding to my questions.  Unfortunately, after 13 years I have become somewhat addicted to this forum and I was definitely suffering from withdrawal symptoms.  I hope you understand.  Again, thanks for your assistance.

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