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I have a question that is relevant to this discussion.  If you buy a MTH re-release that used to be a Premier, but now its branded a Railking, does that count?  I have a GP-20 that came in a Railking box, but when it was first issued it was a Premier.

 

I consider it an older Premier, regardless of the box it came in.  Clearly it is not as detailed as some of the new offerings.  But its still 1:48 (I think)

Originally Posted by Martin H:
Umm, this was posted in the DCS/PS2 forum.  The OP made the effort to get it into the correct forum, you might consider respecting that.
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by david1:

No premier or railking. Just Lionel

 

Thanks Martin for noticing that some folks just aren't happy unless they are posting there "rectum responses" to a thread that they have no reason commenting on.

 

As to the OPs question...my inventory shows...

 

in PS1...18 locomotives... 10 Premier... 8 Railking

 

in PS2/PS3 68 locomotives ...12 Premier ....56 Railking

 

and as to Martins question on how I distinguish from what was premier and now railking ? My inventory is based on "as delivered" ...purple boxes are premier and yellow are railking. I know some of the early premier stuff has been demoted.Another way is of course the 20- or 30- prefix.

 

 

Originally Posted by Martin H:

I have a question that is relevant to this discussion.  If you buy a MTH re-release that used to be a Premier, but now its branded a Railking, does that count?  I have a GP-20 that came in a Railking box, but when it was first issued it was a Premier.

 

I consider it an older Premier, regardless of the box it came in.  Clearly it is not as detailed as some of the new offerings.  But its still 1:48 (I think)

Yes, It counts as an older premier engine.

We have both although my collection is 99% scale oriented. Some of the 'RK Scale' offerings are quite nice.  These Scale RS3's are an example

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as is this RK Scale Dash 8. Both lack some of the small detail pieces that distinguish the Premiere models but in most other aspects they are  full scale proportioned models.

Same electronics in both Premiere & RK by the way  

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The lead BNSF unit is a Premiere and yet they look quite good together.

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One Texas Pacific Mohawk Rail King, one Atlas MKT Scale diesel, and one K-Line Scale Mikado.  Rolling stock is all scale, either Atlas, K-Line scale or MTH Premier, with the exception of about three Lionel Standard O that I keep because they are so neatly detailed.  BTW, I think Rail King cars are about the size of Lionel Standard O, but without the detailing of the Lionel cars.

A bit more Premier than RailKing, but if a RK piece appeals to me, I'll get it (subways, natch).

 

One example is the MTHRRC S70ACE. While I did get the subsequent "company colors" Premier diesels, and had tentative plans to MU all three, the appearance of a "company-color" RK ES44 led me to order one so now I'll have doubleheaded "CC" units in both product lines. They're both going to be pulling York boxcar trains, so realism is kind of a moot point with those. 

 

Another example is the chrome-plated RK tank cars. Been buying those too.

 

I also made a suggestion to MTH to look into three-packs of modern tankers done up as crude-oil unit trains in both RK and Premier. It wouldn't take much to convince me to build a train out of both lines if the suggestion were to come to fruition.

 

---PCJ

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Originally Posted by Martin H:
Umm, this was posted in the DCS/PS2 forum.  The OP made the effort to get it into the correct forum, you might consider respecting that.
 
 
That said, I have all Premier locos, having traded away the only Railking imperial I had.
 
Originally Posted by david1:

No premier or railking. Just Lionel

 

Except that Premier and RailKing were both out before DCS.  And in my case, all my MTH locomotives are pre DCS.

 

But of the 11 locomotives I have from MTH, 4 are Premier and the rest RailKing.  I don't pick mine for detail.  I pick for the model of locomotive and that can fit tighter curves.  One of the Premiers was a gift, so I had no say, and the other 3 just happen to be the locomotive I wanted.  If I had found them in RailKing, I would of gotten them.

I try to avoid the earlier RK items due to compression and lack of detail. However with the later MTH RK items, it may not matter due to all the changes MTH has made over the years. Later cabooses and diesels are basically the same in size. There are actually two RK sizes, True O and traditional compressed.

 

Stick with Premier rolling stock unless you want to add RK’s to your traditional Lionel.

Not me, I’m trying to sell most of my traditional toy Lionel items.

RK Subways are oversized, which I could never understand either.

 

 

 

Locomotives are all Premier or Rail King Scale, except for one RK Hiawatha left over from the Proto-1 era.. Rolling stock is 80% or more Premier. I have a few Rail King cars left over from before I decided to concentrate on scale size, and I do buy an occasional Rail King beer reefer. I also have some RK 19th Century rolling stock, which I run with a Premier 2-8-0. I'd buy scale 19th century rolling stock if there was any, but there isn't so I settle for the RK. Most of the Rail King will probably wind up in the hands of my grand-nephews when they get a little older. 

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