Full 'premium' wifi app

Same here

I just want SUPER TIU mode so I can run the layout the way its supposed to be run

There is not a scheduled release date.

Matt Makens posted:

I just want SUPER TIU ,ode so I can run the layout the way its supposed to be run

Same here.

They're gun shy after promising the WIU and app for 2 years, lol

Anybody have any idea what legacy control mode does in the app? I know what it does on the remote but am not sure on the app, the reason why I ask is because I thought with the standard version you couldn't run Lionel trains on it and you have to wait till the premium app comes. Any help would be great. -Matt

Matt,

Anybody have any idea what legacy control mode does in the app? I know what it does on the remote but am not sure on the app, the reason why I ask is because I thought with the standard version you couldn't run Lionel trains on it and you have to wait till the premium app comes. 

The app's function will be exactly the same as on the DCS Remote. However, it has nothing to do with Legacy engines. It puts DCS engines into legacy (conventional) mode.

Thanks for the reply, Barry! I figured that's what it did. - Matt

Guys, anything good is worth waiting for.  The man for MTH is working many hours on making the final app one that everyone will be very happy with.   This is not a back burner issue.  MTH has some high horse power guys involved in creating something that is going to be great.

Many of the questions that have been asked on the Forum regarding the Wi-Fi are covered very well in the current release of Barry's book.  I am a beta tester and have my copy of the book by my side in the train room.   

The only thing I would like to see is an app that would convert Mike Wolf into a Patriots fan.   Everything else is being worked on.

BTW, Charles Ro will have the new book at York for sale at the booth.  The copies Charlie will be selling will be signed by Barry.    

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

The only thing I would like to see is an app that would convert Mike Wolf into a Patriots fan.   Everything else is being worked on.

Somehow I don't think that's going to happen......

Show some support for our guy building the system.   It will be great.

I know it will be, I love what hes done so far and for me it has worked quite well. The SUPER TIU mode is the only other added funtionality I need and I super excited to get it.

DCS works if done properly.  Many people like do things different.  You just stated   "it has worked quite well"  you then stated     "I am not even sure it really works yet"  

If you think you have wasted your time, you should go on to something else.    

Matt,  if you are tired of screwing around with dcs, give it up.  I for one am tired of listening of you complain.   You constantly target mth.   The more you post, the more you keep going back and forth on MTH issues.   Nobody cares how much you spend.   If you are an MTH tech,  remember the contract you signed with them.   

Here at AGHR in Los Angeles, we have 5 TIU's. All are hooked up with WIFI units awaiting the premium app. Yes that's an investment of around $900. Matt Jackson has set up an internal network handling both MTH and Lionel WIFI. Lionel works flawlessly. MTH WIFI set up on TIU #1 works incredibly well in the area that is served by TIU#1. We too are anxiously awaiting the release of the premium version. However, I think it's better to be patient and wait for a release that has been thoroughly tested by the developers and the beta users before release. I would rather not have it than have one that is full of bugs. I remember people feeling the same way prior to the release of Legacy.  I am sure that the same will be said during the DCS dinner at York. Patience my friends.

Jeff

Matt and all guys reading this post.    Good things are going to happen.  I know how hard MTH is working on this app and it will be great.  When the final product is with us I am sure everyone will be very happy.    It bothers me to see people throw stones.   It will happen.

  So far I've been enjoying the MTH wifi and maybe somplace else it's been brought up and I missed it but yesterday I tried to run a loco on the second track output from the TIU and could not access the loco with the app. Just to be sure there wasn't another issue I wired the track to the track 1 output of the TIU and then everything worked fine. Is this normal for this stage of the app's development? 

Matt,

I wasnt complaining

Yes, you were. Further, it's not necessarily solely on this thread that you do so.

While I don't have a problem with people complaining about actual problems, you're complaints anticipate future problems. I suggest that you stop complaining about "what may or may not be in the future".

If these problems that you expect to materialize actually do come to pass, then you'd be completely  justified in complaining about them

Until then, how about giving it a rest?

I've had the DCS system since MTH released it to the market. Yes there were bugs in the system that MTH released patches/upgrades for and the system worked as designed. To be honest with you, I haven't had any issues with DCS other than something that I didn't do right. My wifi systems works as advertised. I will be using my wifi system with my club's layout on an upcoming show that we're having in Hickory NC. MTH will release the premium app when it is ready. Please be patient!

Matt, you are full of it.  Barry and I are not the only people happy with things at this point.  FYI,  Barry and I are Wi-Fi beta testers.  We know a bit more than is released.  We answer to MTH and when something is slated for public release, MTH will be the people to do so.   You do more complaining about DCS and Wi-Fi than any one person.   The people working on the app are working very hard on it and it takes lots of work.  MTH will release a good product when it is available.    Your  comments are not fun reading for anyone.  To say it like it is,  I do not know anyone who cares what you think.  Nobody cares what you have invested.   Let people do the work on the system and get it done without  you drop kicking it around the forum.  Give it up on what you think future possibilities could be.  You have no idea what the final product is going to be.  

ROGERW posted:

I've had the DCS system since MTH released it to the market. Yes there were bugs in the system that MTH released patches/upgrades for and the system worked as designed. To be honest with you, I haven't had any issues with DCS other than something that I didn't do right. My wifi systems works as advertised. I will be using my wifi system with my club's layout on an upcoming show that we're having in Hickory NC. MTH will release the premium app when it is ready. Please be patient!

Same here, 3 TIU's and no issues that weren't self inflicted :-) 

I brought a WIU to Dave Allen in Australia and it works fine even in an upside down mode, oops I mean down under

I apologize to everybody for my negative attitude towards DCS and my negative comments. I go thru bouts of frustration with it form time to time and yes, most of the issues I have were by my doing in some form. I actually really like it and the WiFi app.

Lionelbill posted:

ROGERW posted:

I've had the DCS system since MTH released it to the market. Yes there were bugs in the system that MTH released patches/upgrades for and the system worked as designed. To be honest with you, I haven't had any issues with DCS other than something that I didn't do right. My wifi systems works as advertised. I will be using my wifi system with my club's layout on an upcoming show that we're having in Hickory NC. MTH will release the premium app when it is ready. Please be patient!

Same here, 3 TIU's and no issues that weren't self inflicted :-) 

I brought a WIU to Dave Allen in Australia and it works fine even in an upside down mode, oops I mean down under

Not only does it work well upside down in Australia, the wifi is a joy to use, so quick, so easy to see the controls on the phone. It's a real winner in my book.

Matt,  no problem.  Please believe things are being worked on big time.  I know having to wait for something can sometimes be an issue.   MTH R & D is cranking on this project.   If the final product was dumped on everyone at one time we would be in a tough spot to have to learn it all at one time.   Without beta testing being done along the way, think of how many bugs might reside.   By getting what we have while it is still being worked on gives everyone a chance to stay up to speed.   MTH has already issued APP updates and firmware updates for the existing users.  

Dave, your opinion is highly respected and I am happy you are happy with things.  The best is yet to come.

Actually Marty, most of my frustrations come from working on the layout. Right now I'm dialing in the layout and making minor changes to track n wiring so I've been spending a lot of time troubleshooting DCS. Once it's all in and that part is done, which should be soon I shouldn't have any more complaints. 

It takes time.  

ROGERW posted:

I've had the DCS system since MTH released it to the market. Yes there were bugs in the system that MTH released patches/upgrades for and the system worked as designed. To be honest with you, I haven't had any issues with DCS other than something that I didn't do right. My wifi systems works as advertised. I will be using my wifi system with my club's layout on an upcoming show that we're having in Hickory NC. MTH will release the premium app when it is ready. Please be patient!

We were VERY early adopters of DCS and many members prefer it over TMCC/Legacy despite a more complex installation requirement (you're dealing with a data network instead of a radio). Running in Super-TIU mode as we do (five TIUs) creates some issues most users don't experience, but we've worked around these issues as they arise. To date, we haven't had anything happen that rose to the level that we believe would require a bug report, let alone a rant on the forum.

We've been testing the WiFi operation using the standard ($4.99) version of the software and have been encouraged by how it works despite the single-TIU limitation.

Working IT, I can appreciate the effort that had to go into building the WiFi system hardware and software. Having used products from a certain software company I won't mention, I definitely appreciate the rigorous testing that the MTH developers are doing.

Bottom line: Be patient. It'll get here.

 Any time you roll out a new system you always run into unforseen problems. Let the folks at MTH do there thing and give us a great product.

Manning, have you upgraded both the wifi firmware and the app to version 1.1?  I have not experienced the issue you described since I upgraded.

I would rather wait for MTH to get the premium app working correctly than to get the app and it has a lot of issues that has to be fixed with patches and upgrades. The standard app is fine for me, although I can't run any of my multi unit consists (lashups)!!!........lol..................rogerw.

RJR posted:

Manning, have you upgraded both the wifi firmware and the app to version 1.1?  I have not experienced the issue you described since I upgraded.

 Thanks RJR I had just received my wiu last week and didn't realize there was a firmware change for it already, as soon as I flashed the wiu I was able to read the locos on fixed output 2. 

    Again appreciate your help.

      George

That issue drove me nuts when I got my wifi's.  Everything works great since I upgraded

  Note that both wifi snd the app must be upgraded.

Is the Premium version even out yet?

Max,

ROGERW posted:

I will be using my wifi system with my club's layout on an upcoming show that we're having in Hickory NC. MTH will release the premium app when it is ready. Please be patient!

ROGERW, I have to ask.....what train show in Hickory, NC?  Are you running O gauge?  

The reason I ask is that I live one town away from Hickory and feel like I am in an O gauge wasteland...all the nearby model railroading seems to be HO and N.

VinceL posted:

ROGERW posted:

I will be using my wifi system with my club's layout on an upcoming show that we're having in Hickory NC. MTH will release the premium app when it is ready. Please be patient!

ROGERW, I have to ask.....what train show in Hickory, NC?  Are you running O gauge?  

The reason I ask is that I live one town away from Hickory and feel like I am in an O gauge wasteland...all the nearby model railroading seems to be HO and N.

14TH ANNUAL NC RAILROAD EXPO

SATURDAY APRIL 16, 2016
9AM-4PM
HICKORY METRO CONVENTION CENTER
1960 13TH AVE. DRIVE SE
HICKORY, NC
$5 ADMISSION

ROGERW posted:

VinceL posted:

ROGERW posted:

I will be using my wifi system with my club's layout on an upcoming show that we're having in Hickory NC. MTH will release the premium app when it is ready. Please be patient!

ROGERW, I have to ask.....what train show in Hickory, NC?  Are you running O gauge?  

The reason I ask is that I live one town away from Hickory and feel like I am in an O gauge wasteland...all the nearby model railroading seems to be HO and N.

14TH ANNUAL NC RAILROAD EXPO

SATURDAY APRIL 16, 2016
9AM-4PM
HICKORY METRO CONVENTION CENTER
1960 13TH AVE. DRIVE SE
HICKORY, NC
$5 ADMISSION

Here is the link to our club's website:  http://piedmonttriadmodelrailroadersclub.com/

As a retired  software/system developer I think I can accurately guess the amount of effort going on at MTH right now to get this done, correctly.

I am more than happy to wait for a solid release and  that MTH is taking all the time they need to insure a good application gets delivered. 

For me, that is worth the wait.

And for what it's worth, I have been married for 48 years and I am now an expert at waiting.

Ed

The last thing I read from MTH was premium app delivery slated for late February 2017.  Well it's late February and wondering if MTH is close to releasing the premium version. The standard is great for what it is but sure would be nice to have full functionality. Anyone know current status?