Barry,
Do you mean that, if you change the engine's type from Legacy to TMCC you can control it?
Yes I can control them if the only thing I change in the app is selecting TMCC instead of Legacy. I've attempted this with more than one Legacy engine and have the same results. Selecting the Correct address or TIU isn't the issue however I did double check both more than once hopping I had just made a simple mistake.
George
George,
Do you have a Legacy base connected to the TIU or a TMCC base?
Barry,
Yes I'm using a Legacy base.
Is the app running Legacy engines in the Legacy Mode for you?
I just spoke with MTH and was told that it should be corrected in the next 48 hours. To be honest I'm sure it's the best response the person I spoke with in the service department could offer however I think if it was a known problem at the time of release it would have been stated. Then again I didn't notice any text files.
George
George,
Huh! That's interesting.
I ran Legacy engines and so did other beta testers without any issues, however, we were using iOS and you're using Android. I know that iOS runs Legacy fine.
Barry
That's great I would rather I had an issue than the app. I'll look all over again but my first thought is what version of firmware do you have on your Legacy base? When I get home I can see if mine matches or if that's my issue.
George
George,
my first thought is what version of firmware do you have on your Legacy base?
I don't know, however, it's not the latest.
I have the same issue with my Legacy engines as George.
Barry,
I am having the same issue as George on an iPhone and iPad. Guess it's not just Andriod.
I got my legacy engines to run the only problem is that I can't get the quilling horn to work on diesels only the fixed horn, yes it's programmed as a Legacy diesel.
They must be addressing the issue. I'm not able to download the new version of the DCS 6.0 program from the Proto-Sound 2.0 site. It just goes blank when I click to download. So probably a fix they are adding.
Disregard my post. It worked through the MTH website for the download.
I'm Still not able to run Legacy engines in Legacy mode, but able to run them in TMCC mode. Any solutions yet?
Voila! I got the DCS 5.0 loader installed, and then upgraded everything to DCS 6.0 tonight. I added a switch and an accessory to my IPhone and IPad before I clocked out, it works very nicely.
I will add the rest tomorrow night.
I have been waiting for this for a long time, being able to use my AIU switches and accessories with my devices, will make the devices very very useful now.
Barry Broskowitz posted:I wonder of the release of the new software (app and firmwares) will be tied to the release of the new DCS Explorer that was subject of this thread.
There's no connection at all between the two.
With the new DCS Explorer set to deliver with 2017 starter sets - you'd think they'd have to have the Full App ready - no reason to disappoint new customers - or miss sales!
The DCS Explorer will use a completely different, free app. It will also be a while before it's available.
So you'll need two different apps for these two dcs systems? If so, does that mean regular DCS trains and trains from DCS Explore sets won't be able to be run simultaneously on the same track without switching back and forth between two different apps? I'm hoping for the sake of simplicity that won't be the case but rather when the time does come that MTH with have a revised version of their premium app which will allow both types of engines to be run simultaneously on the same track using only the premium app.
Why would you use an explorer and a tiu for the same track? As I understand it, the explorer is a 1-channel tiu, essentially.
How can I upgrade my TIU?
I'm having difficulty installing TIU V6. I keep getting messages that Loader v5.0.0 is searching for TIU on COM3 which is the COM into which the TIU is plugged into. Then after a few minutes a Warning message appears to confirm that all the connections are correct and cycle power on the TIU, but no matter what it doesn't work. Help...
Barry Broskowitz posted:George,
my first thought is what version of firmware do you have on your Legacy base?
I don't know, however, it's not the latest.
For use with the Layout Control System, your Legacy Base must have firmware version 1.52 or higher installed. In other words, this means that in order to connect an LCS SER2 to your command base to use in conjunction with the MTH WiFi system, you need v1.52 or higher in your command base.
Thanks for the thought but the TIU is for MTH trains so I'm not sure what you mean by Legacy base?
Sorry if this has been brought up before, but can anyone tell me how to access the Custom Sounds menu from the WiFi app.
This is the one you go to for sounds you put into the TIU I think it is, not the ones that come with the trains.
For me from the handheld I go there via Menu>Sound, then via the wheel I scroll to Custom Sounds.
Thanks
Steven Finkel 123016 posted:I'm having difficulty installing TIU V6. I keep getting messages that Loader v5.0.0 is searching for TIU on COM3 which is the COM into which the TIU is plugged into. Then after a few minutes a Warning message appears to confirm that all the connections are correct and cycle power on the TIU, but no matter what it doesn't work. Help...
Steven Finkel 123016 posted:Thanks for the thought but the TIU is for MTH trains so I'm not sure what you mean by Legacy base?
He's (Rudy) replying to George's post above to Barry.
Your computer is not finding the TIU on the com port automatically. There's been a couple of problems posted about this. I used another computer after mine did this.
Are you using the serial adapter or USB directly? Do you have a sterio 1/8" mini to mini plugged into the TIU correctly? Is the TIU light on? (getting power?)
Steven, it is absolutely essential that all connections be made before the tiu is powered up. Follow the on screen instructions precisely as written, and recycle power if you have to retry.
Thank you. I've followed the on screen directions connecting the USB cable with an RS (232) at the other end to the computer then applying power using an MTH brick to the Aux Power Input. I'm also doing this using Parallels 12 and Windows 10 as a virtual computer on my Mac. Nothing seems to alter the outcome. Perhaps it has to be done on a windows computer instead of a virtual one although I wouldn't know why.
I've also tried the USB cable provided without the RS-232 on one end and that also failed.
Steven Finkel 123016 posted:Thank you. I've followed the on screen directions connecting the USB cable with an RS (232) at the other end to the computer then applying power using an MTH brick to the Aux Power Input. I'm also doing this using Parallels 12 and Windows 10 as a virtual computer on my Mac. Nothing seems to alter the outcome. Perhaps it has to be done on a windows computer instead of a virtual one although I wouldn't know why.
I use VMware Fusion on my MAC with Windows 7 and it works perfectly.
A couple of things. Be sure the USB cable is being attached to the virtual Windows instance and not directly to the MAC's OS. VMware Fusion asks me if I want to connect the USB cable to my MAC or Windows when I plug it it. I am not sure how Parallels works in this situation. You also need to be sure your Windows instance is fully booted and logged in to before attaching the USB cable (other wise it will get connected to the MAC by default).
Finally, I always select which COM port to use in the DCS loader software. It defaults to auto search but my port is COM3 so I make sure I select that before using the loader.
Good luck.
Tony
Thanks Tony. My computer does give me the option to connect to windows or Mac and I'm careful to use the windows connections. I've tried selecting the COM directly instead of auto connect but to no avail. This is really frustrating. It just shouldn't be this difficult.
Steven Finkel 123016 posted:Thanks Tony. My computer does give me the option to connect to windows or Mac and I'm careful to use the windows connections. I've tried selecting the COM directly instead of auto connect but to no avail. This is really frustrating. It just shouldn't be this difficult.
OK, last couple of thoughts. Some USB to COM adapters require drivers to work properly. Be sure your's has the correct drivers. And finally if you are using an DB9 extension cable between the USB to COM cable and the TIU, be sure it is not a null modem cable. Some are labeled some are yellow.
Tony
Good thoughts so I updated the drivers and it's not a null modem cable still no success. I'll see if MTH has any guidance. Thanks for the help.
Steve, when upgrading the tiu, you do have the stereo jumper in place before powering up, do you not? When updating remote, before powering up, remove that jumper and have remote plugged in.
RJR, I don't use a remote as I control the trains using the app on my iPad. Thanks, Steve
I don't know if this is any help to others, but I just went through the update process again so it made me remember this...but I leave mine in Auto and find that things will often work on the first plug in a search for a open comm, but then I try a second time and it will not...so I unplug the USB plug, and plug it in again and then it finds one.
This last try was on my Laptop which I point out because there shouldn't be this much comms, but yet first it found Comm 22 was available, so I updated the TIU with that, then I tried my first handheld right after and it say it could not open Comm 22, so unplugged the USB and re-plugged and then for the next try it found Comm 23 was open, so I updated it on that. Went to do my second handheld and then it could not open Comm 23 so I unplugged the USB out and in again and then it found Comm 22 was open.
Also sometimes it can help to try a different USB in plug on the Laptop as well.
I have had this Laptop for probably 5 years but at the time I bought it, it was a $1,500 Dell...so its not crap, as well it runs everything else I have ever plugged into it fine and without this issue.
Basically if I had to guess I would say the MTH loader has issues which being that its free its understandable, but all in all and as it was first built to work with a older fixed port type system, does not seem to have been brought over to the find a port through the OS type current system very well, so you just have to mess with it till things finally work out.
Hope that is of some help.
All,
Steve is squared away. I talked him through the upgrade while driving down to York this afternoon.
Barry,
I really appreciate the call and the sequence of steps unique to Apple computers that was essential to updating the TIU firmware. I'm looking forward to Barry's release of the Premium App companion book as soon as it is available. Should be an excellent resource for this ever evolving and fun area of innovative technology.
Steve
I am reading along this thread and lot of great information posted here about the update with the app. I agree with Steve that I also am looking forward to Barry's release of the Premium App companion book. I understand that we are still in the early stages of this new wonder app but Barry when do you think you might have the Premium App companion book?
Barry, just to jog your memory I am the gentleman that asked you to autograph his book after the OGR meeting under the grand stand at York in April 2016.
Steve,
I'm happy that we were able to get you all sorted out.
Kris,
I'm working towards having the eBook version of The DCS WiFi Companion available by the 3rd week of May. The print version should follow about 4 weeks later.
Dear Barry
Thank you, looking forward to see eBook and the hard copy.
Do the soft keys exist in the apple version?
A change that I would like to see is the ability to hide the ALL button on the Engines, Switches and Accessories screens. The Hide E-Stop Button and Max Engine Speed Lock on the System Settings screen in the new Premium App is a wonderful improvement.
A change that I would like to see is the ability to hide the ALL button on the Engines, Switches and Accessories screens.
Why?
I understand why it can be desirable to hide the E-Stop button, since accidentally activating it can have severe and immediate consequences. However, the All buttons for engines, switch tracks and accessories aren't in the same league.
Tapping All doesn't actually do anything. It requires a tap on an activating button (Startup, On, Activate , or Off) to make something happen.
Barry:
In response to why I would like to hide the ALL button on the engine, accessories and switch tracks is because I have twice pressed the ALL button, not intentionally, on Accessories then pressed On. Scared the hell out of me. I will probably get used to using the app, but I am happy I wasn't on the Switches page. Would have been really exciting especially if my grandson was in the train room at the time. He would have loved it.
On a serious note, thank you so much for all you have done to help us work through all the nuances of the Premium App.
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