GGD Hiawatha (Second Run Announced!!!!)

Looks great! I'd love to see some more pictures iif you have time

Thanks for posting GenesisFan99, it looks very nice. Do you have the rest of the set on order? Sorry to say I could not swing this set due to other commitments, but it sure looks good.

Charlie

Thanks guys! Unfortunately I don’t have the rest of the set on order. Doesn’t fit what I model, (modern day Amtrak and private railcars) and more importantly, I can’t afford full sets like that yet. I do however have 3 Amfleets, a Budd Strata-Dome, and a Viewliner II Baggage on order. 

Clip was trimmed from a ~6 1/2 min video, which is why it starts where it does.

Here’s a few more photos. Can post more upon request.

set just received i'll post later 

Looking forward to it.  I might have sprung for a Skytop, had they been available separately.

Received my 2 sets yesterday. Haven't had time to open the boxes. When I do I'll post some photos.

Mark

Nice stuff thanks Scott

Beautiful!

Man those came out real good. Beautiful cars. Does the LED on the end of the Skytop light up/flash red like the real thing?

Any pics of the U.P. Colored skytop observation

Jack Fisher was kind enough to shoot this video.

Elegant.  So is the scenery.

Fabulous stuff Scott. THANK YOU 

Incredible set! Kicking myself for missing it. Would like to see a rerun. (Especially UP colors!)

As great as that GGD tailcar is; financially, I'll have to settle for my K-Line version.

Nice!  But I wonder about those gray trucks in the UP colors.  I thought that by the time the Milwaukee cars were repainted, UP had already switched to silver trucks on the passenger cars.  I know that the Milwaukee electrics had gray trucks in the UP colors but I thought that all of the diesels and passenger cars had silver trucks.

Gray Silver I'm sure Scott got it right or we'll have to send them back for repainting.

My Milw Rd are gray.

vash44 posted:

Incredible set! Kicking myself for missing it. Would like to see a rerun. (Especially UP colors!)

Im kicking myself too, Fantastic set! I’ll reserve if a re-run is announced. 

Scott Mann the “Miracle Worker”... restated fabulous Scott just FANTASTIC 

U.P. Colored ones:
https://youtu.be/FFLqJlbNwZI

Hiawatha colored ones:

https://youtu.be/_3wB7TUAkyA

Hey Ulus are the guy on Instagram oscale_trains? nice sets, thank you for supporting the project 

Yep that’s me, love your work. Also you can find longer video’s that I do on youtube, just look up ulus ekerman.

AlanRail posted:

Gray Silver I'm sure Scott got it right or we'll have to send them back for repainting.

My Milw Rd are gray.

Well, if someone would post a color photo of a real MR passenger car with gray trucks (and not just dirty silver), I would believe it is correct.  Barring that happening, I think they should be silver.

Jtrain posted:

AlanRail posted:

Gray Silver I'm sure Scott got it right or we'll have to send them back for repainting.

My Milw Rd are gray.

Well, if someone would post a color photo of a real MR passenger car with gray trucks (and not just dirty silver), I would believe it is correct.  Barring that happening, I think they should be silver

Definitely silver, easy fix, well sort of. 

Jtrain posted:

AlanRail posted:

Gray Silver I'm sure Scott got it right or we'll have to send them back for repainting.

My Milw Rd are gray.

Well, if someone would post a color photo of a real MR passenger car with gray trucks (and not just dirty silver), I would believe it is correct.  Barring that happening, I think they should be silver.

Not sure if these show it.

https://www.american-rails.com/unst.html

https://www.antiquesnavigator....hicago-il--1971.html

BobbyD posted:

Jtrain posted:

AlanRail posted:

Gray Silver I'm sure Scott got it right or we'll have to send them back for repainting.

My Milw Rd are gray.

Well, if someone would post a color photo of a real MR passenger car with gray trucks (and not just dirty silver), I would believe it is correct.  Barring that happening, I think they should be silver.

Not sure if these show it.

https://www.american-rails.com/unst.html

https://www.antiquesnavigator....hicago-il--1971.html

 

The first photo is from 1960, and the passenger car trucks look to be dirty silver.  The second photo is from 1971, and the trucks do look like they might be gray, so that is interesting.  But the Olympian Hiawatha was discontinued in 1961 and the Olympian Hi super domes were sold to CN in 1962.

It seems that UP switched from gray to silver trucks on passenger cars in 1958, which is right after MR switched to UP colors, with the MR repaint to yellow occurring throughout 1957.  Maybe UP liked the MR silver trucks look in 1957 and made the decision to switch the trucks on their own cars from gray to silver in 1958?

Anyway, I am with Erik in that I think that the MR Olympian Hi trucks were silver from the first repaint to UP yellow.

Jtrain posted:

BobbyD posted:

Jtrain posted:

AlanRail posted:

Gray Silver I'm sure Scott got it right or we'll have to send them back for repainting.

My Milw Rd are gray.

Well, if someone would post a color photo of a real MR passenger car with gray trucks (and not just dirty silver), I would believe it is correct.  Barring that happening, I think they should be silver.

Not sure if these show it.

https://www.american-rails.com/unst.html

https://www.antiquesnavigator....hicago-il--1971.html

 

The first photo is from 1960, and the passenger car trucks look to be dirty silver.  The second photo is from 1971, and the trucks do look like they might be gray, so that is interesting.  But the Olympian Hiawatha was discontinued in 1961 and the Olympian Hi super domes were sold to CN in 1962.

It seems that UP switched from gray to silver trucks on passenger cars in 1958, which is right after MR switched to UP colors, with the MR repaint to yellow occurring throughout 1957.  Maybe UP liked the MR silver trucks look in 1957 and made the decision to switch the trucks on their own cars from gray to silver in 1958?

Anyway, I am with Erik in that I think that the MR Olympian Hi trucks were silver from the first repaint to UP yellow.

I doubt that the Milwaukee Road would paint the trucks gray on that Super Dome just prior to selling it if all their other passenger cars had silver trucks years ago. The passenger car to the right of it has silver trucks and the difference between those and the gray truck on the dome is very apparent.

This guy says it was sold to Amtrak in 1972: https://www.flickr.com/photos/...ts/72157627346300445 Fluted about 1993?

1971 image

http://trainweb.org/DOMEmain/picMILW57c.jpg 

Seems to have been taken at the same time as car number 59.

I just want to take time to thank you guys for being more careful about posting copyrighted photos....the links are the way to go.  I appreciate your efforts!

"Aluminum Paint on Passenger Car Trucks"

https://utahrails.net/pass/pass-paint.php

If this information is correct and UP was using Gray trucks into 1958/1959 time period wouldn't the Milwaukee would have painted their cars with gray trucks also to match the UP equipment if they joined the pool back in 1955?

BobbyD posted:

"Aluminum Paint on Passenger Car Trucks"

https://utahrails.net/pass/pass-paint.php

If this information is correct and UP was using Gray trucks into 1958/1959 time period wouldn't the Milwaukee would have painted their cars with gray trucks also to match the UP equipment if they joined the pool back in 1955?

The Olympian Hi cars were not part of the UP pool.  The MR did not repaint their whole fleet until 1957, and probably was not finished by the time the UP made the decision to switch to silver ("aluminum") trucks in 1958.  I am not sure why GGD went with gray.  The logical choice would be silver.  Maybe if GGD does another run of these cars they can go with silver. 

Anyone know how easy it is to paint sideframes?  Easiest is to remove truck, insert paper in between sideframe and wheels, and hit with a rattlecan.  Less time than to post about it.

I am a Skytop freak.  Glad I captured some prototype photos.  Still hoping somebody does a casting for that back end.  I may try it in built-upbrass someday.

OK...OK... 2nd Run announced.

For those of you that missed out on the cars, or want to add to your sets, now is your chance. A limited number of Hiawatha cars will be produced this fall. Put your firm reservations in at this time.

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservationGGD.htm

Thank You,

CN ??????

Scott, any chance of the Sky Top observation car being separately available this time?

No Super Domes?

2nd set ordered (UP Yellow this time).  If the Super Dome is offered, I’ll get one of those too.

Thank you Scott!

-Brian

OK... OK...  I am asking the builder the question about making the Super Domes Too. I will get back with an answer in a couple days.  Scott