I could not agree with you more, Emile. Very well said.
I'm holding out for the model of the "Grain of Tomorrow"!
Simon
Interesting what Ric Morgan says above about the color used for this train. He tells me that this is the color-accurate photo he mentions:
I don't want to start "Color Wars" of the kind that inspired a previous thread about SP Daylights but the above looks a bit faded where the red in the star motif is shown. There's another version of this photo on page 1 of this thread which definitely has a more blue cast to it.
Here's another one that may be close to accurate, and which I particularly like for the locals depicted in it:
Frankly, if they made the model in the electric blue shown in another photo earlier in this thread I wouldn't complain. I think that when Challenger Imports did the HO version it was in something much more blue than blue-green but I am going simply by photos of that set.
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If anyone has a good color ship Scott Mann would love to see or us it. As It stands right now the Cerulean shown in all the pamphlets and contemporary advertising as well as most photographs is all there is to go on.
Man this is going to be one HOT train!!!
Here is the link to the aforementioned Challenger Imports HO model...
"Cerulean." I had to look that up! But I agree about the pamphlets, which all show a greenish cast to the color and which probably are more reliable in terms of what GM intended than modern digital copies of magazine photographs.
I also agree that Scott will do his best to produce an accurate representation of the original color.
So what exactly was the timelines involved when the TOT engine/cars was retired and scrapped (save for the remaining car)?
If anyone has a good color ship Scott Mann would love to see or us it. As It stands right now the Cerulean shown in all the pamphlets and contemporary advertising as well as most photographs is all there is to go on.
Cerulean in no interpretation can describe the color of this train. This is a sample of Cerulean...
My Cerulean sample
Just purchased the book--great read! Makes me want the model now.
Doug
Just purchased the book--great read! Makes me want the model now.
Doug
Yes. Ric's book can have that effect.
Today is the last day to order one of these from 3rd rail. Delivery is expected in 1 month.
Good reminder, Emile. The last time I saw an update, less than ten sets remained that were available for purchase. With only 70 sets to be done, this will be a very rare set.
Many thanks go to Forum member Keith who kept this train front-minded for the manufacturers for many years. Finally Scott agreed to do it. Good for 3rd Rail. I am looking forward to it's arrival.
By the way, Emile, you have good taste.
Can hardly wait, it's a beauty. Photos of sample posted on 3rd Rail website:
I'm very excited as well as this will be my first 3rd Rail purchase.
Do y'all think those photos are 2rail O or HO?
I'm very excited as well as this will be my first 3rd Rail purchase.
Do y'all think those photos are 2rail O or HO?
My thoughts as well, but there's what appears to be a thumbtack on the observation.
Pullman drawing?
Pullman built the cars.
This is a good news/bad news item for me. I'm really looking forward to getting my set, but this is one time I wish Sunset was a little late on delivery (please don't tar and feather me). With York coming up and final payments on a couple of ski trips due over the next month, this will seriously deplete my bank account.
Woo-hoo - I guess there are only 9 available now!
Glad I found out about this - thanks!
Now I need to pick up a copy of The Train of Tomorrow...
Do you know if this is 70 3R sets or 70 total sets (3R and 2R)?
Either way, my Train of Tomorrow set will proudly sit on my layout, right next to my 3rd Rail/GGD Columbian set!
Jim
This is a good news/bad news item for me. I'm really looking forward to getting my set, but this is one time I wish Sunset was a little late on delivery (please don't tar and feather me). With York coming up and final payments on a couple of ski trips due over the next month, this will seriously deplete my bank account.
To quote the philospher SpongeBob SquarePants, "I'm Ready! I'm Ready! I'm Ready!"
I have postponed some other purchases (like the Legacy 990 command set) and been selling some excess engines/rolling stock so I have now have cash in hand for my set! yeah!!!
Jim
The cutaway drawing of the Moon Glow was done by GM. Budd didn't have anything to do with the TOT. The actual train was built by Pullman-Standard.
Ric Morgan
Author of the book about the TOT
jd:
I think it is a total of 70 sets. I have no idea if any are being made in 2-Rail.
jd:
I think it is a total of 70 sets. I have no idea if any are being made in 2-Rail.
It is being made in 2 rail and 3 rail. A sample will probably be at York since Scott intends to bring one back when he returns from China just before York
This great! I really want this loco and was expecting it to be somewhat longer than this.
I'm very excited as well as this will be my first 3rd Rail purchase.
Do y'all think those photos are 2rail O or HO?
My thoughts as well, but there's what appears to be a thumbtack on the observation.
I understand that those are photos of O scale production samples (I know 3rd Rail sometimes uses HO brass models in pre-production publicity but that's not the case here). If you look at the close up of the dome car in the flyer copied below you'll see what I think is the overhead lighting in the domes, which no HO version of this train has.
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Possibly foolish question (but I've learned the hard way not to take things for granted )...
The two rail ToT is described as having digital sound. The three rail version, while having ERR Cruise, doesn't have any mention of sound anywhere. Should I assume this E7 will not have any form of RailSounds?
Possibly foolish question (but I've learned the hard way not to take things for granted )...
The two rail ToT is described as having digital sound. The three rail version, while having ERR Cruise, doesn't have any mention of sound anywhere. Should I assume this E7 will not have any form of RailSounds?
No, please do not assume that. ALL the Sunset/3rd Rail/GGD E7 models for 3-Rail, came with appropriate EMD sounds from ERR. In fact, I put the same ERR "TMCC package" in my Williams E7A units, prior the the Sunset/3rd Rail/GGD E7 units production, and they sound ver good.
"A sample will probably be at York since Scott intends to bring one back when he returns from China just before York"
WOW, thanks for the report. This is a real plus for those of us who ordered this set and who are going to York. I didn't expect to see it before the UPS guy arrived.
I'm very excited as well as this will be my first 3rd Rail purchase.
Do y'all think those photos are 2rail O or HO?
My thoughts as well, but there's what appears to be a thumbtack on the observation.
The first photo is definitely the HO model, because it is the same pic that I posted on Nov. 20, 2013(the day this thread started).
I'm excited to read that there might be a sample at York...I'm not going, but my buddy Brian can fill me in on what he thinks of the set.
I pre ordered a two rail UP set but have been unable to confirm if it went through . maybe I should try to call again
I pre ordered a two rail UP set but have been unable to confirm if it went through . maybe I should try to call again
I phoned in my preorder today, and within an hour, I had a completed order form pdf emailed back to me...
I pre ordered a two rail UP set but have been unable to confirm if it went through . maybe I should try to call again
An EXCELLENT idea, as nobody here is able to assist you with that preorder.
"I'm excited to read that there might be a sample at York...I'm not going, but my buddy Brian can fill me in on what he thinks of the set."
You can bet on that Keith. I wasn't planning on taking me camera to York, but this announcement changed that.
I was reading Ric Morgan's book on the train of tomorrow, when my wife commented on how unique it looked. I told her about the upcoming model, but explained that it wasn't possible with my current train budget. She gave me an exasperated look and said "well your self employed, give yourself a raise!" Gotta love her! Unable to combat that logic, I placed my order!! Looking forward to seeing it at York.
While trying to find more info on the Train of Tomorrow, I tripped across a DVD
Dome Car Magic: A History of Railroad Dome Cars
which is free to stream for Amazon Prime members through Prime Instant Video. It's not excessively detailed, but a nice 27 minute overview through 2006.
I was reading Ric Morgan's book on the train of tomorrow, when my wife commented on how unique it looked. I told her about the upcoming model, but explained that it wasn't possible with my current train budget. She gave me an exasperated look and said "well your self employed, give yourself a raise!" Gotta love her! Unable to combat that logic, I placed my order!! Looking forward to seeing it at York.
Wow.
Good for you Bryan, you certainly picked the right lady.
After reading the current posts, I bet there are very few if any left.
Got my reservation for a 2 rail UP city of Portland this morning Yeah!!!! Also added a slumber coach for my upcoming slog to build a NP Northcoast limited. Question to all wasn't their some talk of a prototypical Northcoast in the works not the Finish sets based on B,O cars?