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This post made me curious since I had my new UP GP7 on a floor layout in my office, not pulling any cars. I put it on the layout and coupled it to a 14 car freight. It ran around the layout as though it was pulling nothing at all. This includes a 9" rise up a 2% grade. As a final test I backed the 14 car train up a 2.4% grade around a 60" diameter 180 degree curve. No problems at all.

It sounds to me like there is an issue with KATY409's engine.

RoyBoy - All pickups work as they should. 

BanjoFlyer - Thanks for the laugh. Reminded me my HS street racing days with my                                                                                    409 up against Dodges with 426H.   Tires on the 09 had to replaced often !

Roving Sign - yes traction tires are all there.

Roundhouse Bill. - without the dummy engine my GP7 pulls the eight cars but with some wheel slip noted when changing speeds. I would be happy with 21 cars.

                                                                                                Thanks for all replys, Art

What I have been hearing is Axles Oiled wheels spinning. Could be oil is getting on the traction tires. How about oil on the tracks from oiling the axles. I have an early Geep vertical motor spur gears on the side of the truck. The same set up as these F/C jeeps.  This jeep spins its wheels and I noticed that the traction tires are shiny or worn.  Just could be some of the tires on these new F/C jeeps are defective. I will order new traction tires for the early jeep. Never had any traction trouble with this jeep before this week.

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