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We bought this set nib, never run. Sounds work, but engine won't move at all. Can anyone help us? We bought one just like it that had been used and same problem, sending back, but this one should work as it's never been opened. Using a new battery too, so that's not the problem. Down to the wire now for grandchild.

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It is Ps2. Using Z4000. Don't feel it's electrical. Put in new rechargeable 9v BioniCare battery.   Drive wheels appear to have proper slack, front 3 appear completely locked. Side rods have little slack. Tried to rotate the wheels with flywheel and it won't make a complete revolution. Never seen this before. Have a Bantam N&W- J and it turns freely. Any ideas?

Sounds like it's mechanically binding somewhere. When you turn the flywheel and it comes to a stop, take a careful look at the side rods and make sure one of them is not bent causing the binding issue. If that looks okay, you may have to get into the gear box to check out things down there. There could be something stuck in one of the gears.

Berkman, a rechargeable battery cannot be 9-volt, despite what it may say.  Cells are 1.2 volts each.  Most are 6 cell, which yields 7.2 volts.  What you need is one that delivers 8.4 volts.  I suggest, for a test only, putting in a 9-volt alkaline.  Given that MTH stopped using this size battery over 10 years ago, it's a sure thing that the battery is bad.

There are some 8.4's available in local-type stores.  I ask someone who knows if Harbor Freight or Radio Shack carry them to chime in with the part number.  I would not trust the average Radio Shack employee to know the difference.

Tried to rotate the wheels with flywheel and it won't make a complete revolution. Never seen this before. Have a Bantam N&W- J and it turns freely. Any ideas?

Something amiss here.  You should be able to turn the fly-wheel  freely with no binding.  .If you can't   ,the motor  won't be able to as well.   Might even burn it out. All my engine 's flywheel's turn easily.

 

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Not sure how to send image, but here's a description.
Product Name: 4-8-4 Bantam Gs-4 Steam Passenger R-T-R Train Set w/Proto-Sound 2.0
Product Catalog: 2000 Volume 2 - RailKing
Product Line: RailKing
Product Item Number: 30-4039-1
Price: $299.95
Delivery Status: Delivered JUL. 2000
Roadname: Southern Pacific
Product Description: 4-8-4 Daylight Steam Passenger R-T-R Train Set w/Proto-Sound 2.0 - SP Daylight Set Includes: 4-8-4 Gs-4 Steam Engine(30-133c), 3-Car SP O-27 Streamlined Passenger Set (30-133b), 8 Piece RealTrax Oval, Z-500 Transformer
RJR posted:

Are you saying that there are no other rods but the side rod connecting the wheels?  That doesn't sound right.  Can you post a loco or set model number?

 

When you rotate the flywheel, watch the side rods that go up to the cylinders and see if they appear to jam at the end of their travel.

I don't have a pic handy, but Berkman probably has the 30-4182-1 set. There is just the rod coming from the crosshead to the second driver, and a rod connecting all the drivers, just a stamped crosshead and NO valve gear. These are a very small starter set locomotive designed for 027 operation.

Berkman, the on I am having trouble with is an older Loco-Sound version, it is locked up TIGHT, with NO slack motion at all.

My PS2 version, and the 2 PS2 sest that I gave my Sisters have all been fine so far, but they don't get much track time. Several years ago, I gave each of my Sisters a Bantam Daylight set for Christmas. Growing up in Portland, OR, the 4449 is a "Hometown Girl" and those sets are Very Popular with the Niece and Nephews(and my sisters too).

Not the trouble with mine, but have you checked to see if a bolt on the front drivers is coming out and hitting the rod from the crosshead, that would cause it to bind, but still allow a little forward/backward slack movement.

Good luck, these cute little engines make no pretense aout being any nothing remotely close to scale, but are usually very popular any way,

Doug

 

 

MTH won't honor a warranty on this it is from 2000.  It is 15 years old, so not sure where you found this new.  Having said that, these can get bound up from the bracket for the steam chest pushing into the wheels.  Makes sure alignment is fine.  Hard to mis-quarter wheels on this unless done at factory, but if a side rod bolt has pinched the side rod it can't rotate.

So loosen all the side rod bolts and then see if it frees up.  If not, take shell off, 4 screws and loosen the 3 motor mount screws and see if it that frees the motor up, also see if the wheels turn now.

Depending on how this was stored, it could have corrosion binding it too.  G

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