HO Brass ATSF Santa Fe 1-A/B Golden Olive "Amos'n Andy"

Sign me up.

Going to be some interesting discussions re the colors.  The renderings I've seen show the main body as olive green and the roof a medium blue.  According to John McCall there are no color photos of the units.  The picture of them on the cover of "Diesel Daze" is based on a tinted photo provided by the Santa Fe.

 

Allan

That's a pair on my want list in O scale.

It was a very interesting battle color choosing for these. Hallmark made them in the Bronco's color scheme and some other various shades.... 

 

This model was scrutinized heavily by the ATSF Historical people and some very renowned experts in the ATSF community. The "Golden Olive" in this model I feel is fabulous and very accurate. The Deep green base and light blue roof were matched to records that were discovered or brought into the project. These ATSF guys wanted them as right as possible; it is believed by the majority of the community involved these are very correct.

 

This HO set is very rare and highly sought after by both collectors and operators in the brass market.  They normally sell for roughly double the MSRP in 2006. 

 

I cut metal for one of these, but failed to make end masters before my buddy gave up his foundry.

 

So if the black and white photo shows widely different levels of gray on the two bottom bands, how do you justify having them the same color?

 

 

Erik;

 

Division Points Olive is much nicer than the Olive that is on the cover of McCall's book which shades more to green.  Here is what McCall says about the colors..."The colors are not entirely correct for the locomotive as delivered.  An historically correct rendition would substitute a medium blue (Dupont named it Saratoga Blue) on the roof of the locomotive above the "Pimpernel Scarlet" accent stripes.  The "Super Chief Golden Olive", the black belt-stripe and the "Cobalt Blue" lower areas are correct."

 

Allan 

Eric,

 

I like the idea. Can't afford one but I still like it. My question to you is about matching the paint on the Atlas Zephyr cars to a pair of Weaver E8s. I tried AlCald, 1 ounce would not cover the E. I am going to try some Tru-Color silver then over spray with black to tone it down. Am I crazy? Any suggestions?

 

Thanks

 

Dick

Count me in for a pair of these units.

 

Didn't the B&O have very similar units?   

 

Steve

What a crazy looking contraption! Bemused by the "skirts" on the trucks.  I might be in for a Rock Island TA, although I would have to start sticking up remote satellite banks and convenience stores, now, to build up the 1/4 billion dollar price tag reserve!

The B&O was less "glamorous:"

 

Rusty

The Santa Fe units are very cool in a heidous sort of way. Only a face a mother could love. 

A skilled modeller realized the evolution of Andy and Amos in O scale, after ATSF transformed these two ugly ducklings into something more palatable:

 

 

These were for sale on E-Bay but disappeared before the end of the auction. I was in touch with their owner at one time and made an offer, but never heard back from him. He may have found some richer enthusiast....

 

Yves

As much as I love the Santa Fe, those things are just butt ugly. 

That's debatable...

 

Rusty

I AGREE WITH RUSTY

Knickerbocker's intended body work for his fabulous Warbonnet.

Erik: The ATSF Amos and Andy would be great to see in brass. Heck any locomotive would be great to see in brass. Though they would not be on my want/need list, I feel that there far too many other projects needed before these are made. How about RS3, H12-44s. SD40-s, alco T6 in PRR and N&W, NS SD70Ace Heritage, RS11/12s, SD7/9/18/24/26s, passenger GP7/9 with roof tanks, C44-9W or AC4400 etc. How about the Wabash Blue Bird E8s all dome cars in Wabash and N&W paint schemes.

Stephen

The 1A was also rebuilt again into a transfer locomotive 2611 around 1953:

 

A marginal improvement over the "bulldog" rebuild.

 

Rusty

Those things are as ugly as a mud fence, and that's being generous!

Things are moving along with a possible Bulldog and Amos and Andy project in the near future. I will keep you guys informed.

Who's the builder? Will it be O Scale?

If it isn't Sunset 3rd rail or some on of that ilk, they'll probably not be affordable to the masses and thus effectively be irrelevant.

If it's not O scale, it's still irrelevant.

 

Both will be unfortunate.

Looks like I'm the only Burlington guy supporting the idea of an O Gauge EA or even a good E7. As for the EA's, I would buy a set of Silver King and Silver Queen. Another one to consider would be Silver Charger as used on the General Pershing Zephyr.

 

RAY

I think all of these early units could be done. The CB&Q would be a must for me.

Ajin would likely be the builder.

I think I am with Martin - but if a high-end importer does them to perfection, the hobby will be enriched with the five or six sets they will sell.

 

If I ever finish the one i started, it will be slightly on the green side, without those truck side frame covers.  My motivation has been low . . .

I'd be in for a 3rd Rail/GGD set of Amos/Andy, Silver King/Knight, Queen/Princess.  Actually I'd be in for an entire articulated Denver Zephyr.  Scott has received basically zero request directly (other than me).   My guess is it would require reservations for about 50 complete sets @$4K for 2 locomotives and 12 cars.

 

 

Hmmmmmm.....

 

Interesting.

 

Ha!