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Good Day,

 

I need you help please. I’m trying to visualize how big of a structure this would be on an S Scale layout. I hope to start building a layout this fall. The three main focuses that I want on the layout are the grain elevator, logic/warehousing and Intermodal yard.

 

I’m curious about the height of this grain elevator in the first picture below. How tall do you think the silos are? How tall is the evaluator at the highest point? I'm thinking the silos are 110’ to 120’ tall and each silo is about 30’ wide. And the elevator at the tallest point is 170’. What do you think? How big is this grain elevator in S Scale?

 

Regards,

Frank

 

Are my measurement conversions from scale feet to inches correct?

 

  1’ =   3/16

  5’ = 15/16

10’ = 1 7/8

20’ = 3 ¾

30’ = 5 5/8

40’ = 7 ½

50’ = 9 3/8

60’ = 11 ¼

 

 

Grain Elevator 12 Silos

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Hi Frank, using your photo and a little background info I can make a guesstimate.

First of all I think the engines are GP30's as that's what the RR shown owns.

A GP30 stands 15 feet tall in real life.

Your engine image measures 5/8 inch on my monitor or in decimal form .625 inches.

So....  .625 in = 15 feet.

The silos look to be 3.75 inches tall so 3.75/.625=6  so 6X15 (feet)= 90 feet.(16.875 inches in "S")

The silo diameter looks to be .75 inches so .75/.625=1.2 so 1.2X15=18 feet

(3.375 inches in "S")

The elevator looks to be 5.25 inches tall so 5.25/.625=8.4 so 8.4X15=126 feet. (23.635 inches in "S")

 

I know all these are measurements taken from a monitor with a ruler but it's really a measurement of ratio's.

Since the engine's height is fixed all other items can be scaled from that known number.

Maybe someone know's this photo's location and can supply the real silo specs.

It would be interesting to see the actual dimensions.

Mark

I have a wooden grain elevator that was scratchbuilt from a Model Railroader article,

that I bought, that is S scale, not O (as thought).  I may be able to find the article it

was based on...but it is much smaller than that, but could served as its predecessor..

new concrete ones were often put up as additions to old wooden ones..It is a good

model but looks too small among my O scale ones.....$50.00, shipped....

Good Day Mark,
 
Thanks for the information, calulations and location of the grain elevator.
 
After reviewing the picture, I'm thinking of a structure something like this. I modified the first picture. How does this look?
 
Regards,
Frank
 
 
 
Originally Posted by banjoflyer:

Hi Frank, using your photo and a little background info I can make a guesstimate.

First of all I think the engines are GP30's as that's what the RR shown owns.

A GP30 stands 15 feet tall in real life.

Your engine image measures 5/8 inch on my monitor or in decimal form .625 inches.

So....  .625 in = 15 feet.

The silos look to be 3.75 inches tall so 3.75/.625=6  so 6X15 (feet)= 90 feet.(16.875 inches in "S")

The silo diameter looks to be .75 inches so .75/.625=1.2 so 1.2X15=18 feet

(3.375 inches in "S")

The elevator looks to be 5.25 inches tall so 5.25/.625=8.4 so 8.4X15=126 feet. (23.635 inches in "S")

 

I know all these are measurements taken from a monitor with a ruler but it's really a measurement of ratio's.

Since the engine's height is fixed all other items can be scaled from that known number.

Maybe someone know's this photo's location and can supply the real silo specs.

It would be interesting to see the actual dimensions.

Mark

 

Grain Elevator Working Drawing 1

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 The headhouse should be approx. 120 feet tall. The top gallery(above the bin deck) should be approx. 80 feet. The main elevator has 80 foot diameter bins. The annex are only 70 footers. The top gallery is 10 foot tall. The round black spots on the side are 24" access hatches.  Good luck hope to see pictures.

 

PS. Grain facilities are called "elevators". "Silo's" are for the complete chopped up grain plant.

 

PPS. That train runs thru my pasture.

Originally Posted by Swafford:
Good Day Mark,
 
Thanks for the information, calulations and location of the grain elevator.
 
After reviewing the picture, I'm thinking of a structure something like this. I modified the first picture. How does this look?
 
Regards,
Frank
 
 
 
Originally Posted by banjoflyer:

Hi Frank, using your photo and a little background info I can make a guesstimate.

First of all I think the engines are GP30's as that's what the RR shown owns.

A GP30 stands 15 feet tall in real life.

Your engine image measures 5/8 inch on my monitor or in decimal form .625 inches.

So....  .625 in = 15 feet.

The silos look to be 3.75 inches tall so 3.75/.625=6  so 6X15 (feet)= 90 feet.(16.875 inches in "S")

The silo diameter looks to be .75 inches so .75/.625=1.2 so 1.2X15=18 feet

(3.375 inches in "S")

The elevator looks to be 5.25 inches tall so 5.25/.625=8.4 so 8.4X15=126 feet. (23.635 inches in "S")

 

I know all these are measurements taken from a monitor with a ruler but it's really a measurement of ratio's.

Since the engine's height is fixed all other items can be scaled from that known number.

Maybe someone know's this photo's location and can supply the real silo specs.

It would be interesting to see the actual dimensions.

Mark

 

Grain Elevator Working Drawing 1

Hi Frank, the modified picture looks great.

Father.dragon states the bins are 80 foot in diameter but I think he meant to say 80' tall. At 80' in diameter the 12 bins making up the structure would be about 960 feet long for the bins alone. That's fifteen feet in S scale. Wow!

If I'm right as to the diameter of the bin to be around 18 feet then an easy way to model them would be to use 3" PVC pipe. With an outside diameter of 3.5 inches or so they would scale out to about 18' in S gauge.

I like the fact that the bins all touch in the revised photo.

If you ever build the model be sure to post pictures along with the real life photo.

Good luck!

Mark

Originally Posted by Swafford:

Good Day,

 

I need you help please. I’m trying to visualize how big of a structure this would be on an S Scale layout. I hope to start building a layout this fall. The three main focuses that I want on the layout are the grain elevator, logic/warehousing and Intermodal yard.

 

....

before you commit to anything, i would suggest you do another type of research.  take a look through back issues of Model Railroader for layouts that incorporate grain elevator structures.  i have a feeling you will see many examples where the structure was compressed and still looks very realistic.  unless you have a warehouse size space to play with, a full scale structure of this size will dominate the entire layout whereas i imagine your building a train layout, you would want the focus to be fixed more on the trains than the scenery.

 

just something you might want to consider.

cheers...gary

Good Evening Gary,

 

Thank you, I appreciate your insight. To me, the compressed look is exactly want I want to avoid on structures.  I have viewed many O Scale and HO grain elevators in the past 40 years and they just do not look right to me. I want the structures on my layout to be 1:64 scale.

 

Regards,

Frank

 

If you would consider an older structure, Altoona Model Works makes an S Scale kit of the grain elevator at Nanton in Alberta, Canada.  I saw one built up at the Spring S Spree this weekend and it's an impressive model.  Their website is:
 
 
http://www.altoonamodelworks.net/images/nanton%20complete%20025.JPG
 
Mike A.
 
Originally Posted by Swafford:

Good Evening Gary,

 

Thank you, I appreciate your insight. To me, the compressed look is exactly want I want to avoid on structures.  I have viewed many O Scale and HO grain elevators in the past 40 years and they just do not look right to me. I want the structures on my layout to be 1:64 scale.

 

Regards,

Frank

 

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