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In another topic where someone with an new ZW-L looking to make things simpler so that his daughter could run trains on her own started me to thinking about the time needed to get things moving on a layout from the time you flip on the lights in the train room or basement.

I run conventionally, with both modern and postwar equipment, using block control and postwar ZW and KW transformers phased together. It takes me maybe 5 seconds to turn on the power strip that everything is plugged into and start playing with the trains! From the other discussion it sounds like there is a LOT of time spent setting things up and programming this and that before the trains actually begin to move. I've been considering upgrading to some kind of command control, either Legacy, DCS or even TMCC (if I can find it on Ebay) mainly because I'm undertaking a major expansion and walk-around throttle control would be a needed feature but I would like to keep things simple as well, if possible.

Am I misunderstanding the amount of set-up time needed before the fun begins?
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You're talking about the initial setup when you first configure everything for the command environment.

 

To run one of my Legacy locomotives, I make sure it's on the track, power up the tracks and the Legacy remote, and start running the engine.  I confess, it probably take more like 10 seconds, but it's not exactly a huge amount of time!

 

Even setting up a new locomotive in the Legacy system shouldn't take you more than maybe a minute or two at the most.

OK - thanks. I guess I misunderstood...that the time is in the initial programming, not each and every time you power-up. But with Legacy, and you want to do remote uncoupling, does each and every coupler of every car (front and back) need to be programmed into the system? What do most Legacy users do for example in yards?

With any system, remote coupling is dependent on having a remotely controlled electrocoupler to activate.  As a rule, they're only on command locomotives, though Lionel has a few cars and cabooses that have electrocouplers as well.  I've never seen an MTH car with remote couplers, though I'm sure it's possible.  MTH offered electrocouplers on ProtoSound 1 locomotives as well, activated by a sequence of whistle/bell activations from the transformer. 

 

You can position the magnetic decoupling tracks at appropriate places in your yard to decouple cars, that's what is usually done.

Originally Posted by xrayvizhen:

OK - thanks. I guess I misunderstood...that the time is in the initial programming, not each and every time you power-up. But with Legacy, and you want to do remote uncoupling, does each and every coupler of every car (front and back) need to be programmed into the system? What do most Legacy users do for example in yards?

As long as the engines are command engines and they have electrocouplers, early diesels and steamers did not although it was possible to retrofit them, once you assign a unique number to the engine it only responds to the command when sent. The other engines do not receive the signal whether from CAB1 or Legacy CAB2.

 

My guess going forward the original CAb1/TMCC system will likely fail at some point. They go back to 1995 and parts are no longer available. So, although I still think Legacy is a work in progress you would be better going with Legacy.

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