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About 6 or 7 years ago, after nearly tearing my hair out, I replaced ALL my Gargraves switches with Ross and have had no problems since. Some will remember there were two different types of Gargraves; an old, old model with stamped metal points and a newer type with movable rails. The older ones were a disaster. The newer, not so much, but I replaced them all anyway, tossed the stamped metal types in the garbage and saved a few of the newer ones.

I now have a need for one industrial siding which will also serve a dual purpose as a storage track. Thinking about all the problems I had years ago,  is there a way to closely examine a switch (the newer type Gargraves) to determine if it will cause problems before it gets installed rather than putting it in on a hope and a prayer? This siding will be close to the edge of the layout and so will be activated with a manual ground throw therefore one possible problem area will be eliminated. Bottom line…I’m thinking I can save 75 bucks and reuse one of the newer old Gargraves. Dumb idea?

I’ve taken a close, close look…with a magnifying glass even. I’ve noticed that on some the there’s a lot of slop in the moving rails (sorry…I don’t know all the switch nomenclature). They wiggle and often aren’t perpendicular to the ties, so have been eliminated from consideration. Are there other things I should be looking for?

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The base/table/foundation under the switch must be FLAT. It does not have to be level, but it must be flat.

I fixed an unruly Ross switch on a friend's layout by shimming its base in several places to make it flat. It was at the apex of a slight grade and the tracks going in to it were pulling it out of alignment/true.

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"Some will remember there were two different types of Gargraves; an old, old model with stamped metal points and a newer type with movable rails. The older ones were a disaster."

Never found that to be true, and I've got a layout full of them - the 0-100 type. They - some of them - did require tweaking per the points, but that's model railroading. And, back in the day, I used RIX switch machines mounted on the layout surface, employing home made spring linkage. Still not a "disaster".

The new ones are better, in all ways, especially when it comes to switch machines. Oh, boy, are they. (But, the old ones were cheap.)

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