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You would think that with a store full of modern high Tech. trains I would loose my interest in simple conventional items. I keep finding myself drawn to the trains of my childhood and trying to bring back the joy I felt as a child. My first train was a Marx hand me down from an older brother, it was a Marx CP 3000 that I ran the snout out of. I loved Marx Trains and I still collect them today and then I got my first Lionel and I was hooked. My first Lionel was an MPC Allegheny set with Sound of Steam, I thought that was high-tech for the time. I know this thought has been expressed by other people but thought it would be fun to share my feelings about this Hobby. Customers ask me if I get sick of toy trains and I have to admit that I am still hooked and play with them on a regular basis. I would like to also thank all of the OGR Forum members for sharing their memories and supporting my store.

Thanks

Happy railroading

Pat

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Pat,

I share similar feelings for MPC.  Though I love the modern, big, scale stuff, I miss the charm of MPC / Marx trains.  I have kept all of my childhood trains just for that reason, they are a blast to run and I love the smell of fried ozone each time!  Plus I get a kick out of watching them.  Makes me feel like an 8 yr old again.

 

I always enjoyed the tobacco cars.  There was a certain charm in this era-like the State Set and the Mickey Mouse Train.  I really wish I would have bought the Mickey train-passed on it and now really regret it.

 

Or how about the BN and Chessie SD-40 sets?  UP or IC passenger sets, which are still really desirable.  Great stuff, thanks MPC for the memories.

 

 

I could say the same about Lionel Trains Inc. engines. These ones are sort of a happy medium of all three eras: prewar tinplate (Lionel Classics), postwar classics, and modern scale. Nonetheless, there are many favorite trains that are MPC era, and provide a lot of nostalgia.

 

I run both conventional and command frequently, and MPC, LTI, and later TMCC as well as current Legacy share the loops often.

I think we are very blessed do to the MPC ERA. THIS might be called the General Mills Era as this saved Lionel from possibly going out of business. Then, out of his Love for Toy Trains, Richard Kughn, Bought Lionel and This was the Beginning of What we have Today.

So, Many of us saw some nice engines being reproduced, The Norfolk &Western J, the IC Passenger set with beaitiful ABA's, and one at a time great Post War Reproductions...

Then, TMCC,LEGACY, and Now The I -Pad ERA.

Yes, Lionel has survived for many Decades, and that's because, they have always given us Their Best Shot, And we are the reason for Their Success, WE BUY THEIR PRODUCTS.

Happy Railroading!!

 

I have about nine of those very first MPC (by way of Pola) "Standard O" boxcars and reefers. NO add-on details except the brakewheels, but nice diecast sprung trucks and colorful bodies.

 

And I also have the Milwaukee Special set and the add-on cars (except the diner). Engine has Sound of Steam with the whistle and both work fine!

 

 

 

 

 

The Milwaukee Special was the one of the first and the best of The Mighty Sound of Steam. The original configuration of the system came with a tender with it's own roller pick ups allowing you to disconnect the tether from the engine and still have the capability to operate the whistle. As the Mighty Sound of Steam was offered in later years The premium engines such as the Southern Crescent  and Blue Comet didn't even include a whistle. The whistle came back on the Chicago on Alton set with a downward facing speaker to improve sound but you still didn't have the ability to operate the whistle independently of the sound of steam. That was the down fall of the MPC era they took what had the potential to be a great system, never really did anything to improve it and only looked for ways to make it cheaper.
 
The Milwaukee Special is still the King of My railroad and rises above any other train displayed.
 

 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by Tinplate Art:

And I also have the Milwaukee Special set and the add-on cars (except the diner). Engine has Sound of Steam with the whistle and both work fine!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other then those like myself with sentimental memories who lived through those early e MPC years, I can't imagine anyone knowing what is available today having any interest in it...

In this slowly evolving highly repetitive hobby after fifty some years, the best place for those colorful early MPC era pieces today is a display shelf. 

Joe 

 

 

My MPC motive power was limited to a couple of small steamers, my plastic 0-4-0, and that was good for up to 10-12 cars at a scale 40MPH. I may have gotten that particular train up to 15 lightweight cars before I added another switcher (8516 NY Central) to double-head it, but by that time the LTI era was in full swing . The only other MPC loco I have is an 8506 0-4-0, which being die-cast wasn't at a loss for pulling power.

 

I do have a fair amount of MPC rolling stock, but the only sub-category I'm actively adding to is the MPC-style autorack, whenever they show up in the catalogs from time to time:*

While the rest of my MPC fleet is pretty much dormant due to the influx of scale-sized equipment, I have no plans to retire any of it--it's just a matter of time before it gets its turn to run.

 

---PCJ

*(Edit: I see the 81003 CP is in stores now--(goes to check usual sources) a 40' train of these is now a certainty)

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I still have a few, but no special affection for them. I've been getting rid of them at train shows for the past several years. Many MPC items are waxy-looking, unpainted plastic and have shiny, ugly plastic trucks. I bought most of my MPC stuff when I was just getting back into the hobby, before Lionel and MTH started making a lot of better-quality scale items. It was OK then for what it was, but it hasn't got much going for it now. 

"Nope.  Engines couldn't pull their own shadow"

 

Never heard it put that way; its not only funny, but true!  I know there has been debate if the hobby is "toys" or "models".  I don't care one way or another, however, MPC for the most part were toys hands down (IMHO).  Some higher end steamers and passenger cars were decent, but for the most part they were cheaply produced and poorly engineered.  I have some MPC where the plastic has become brittle and shows stress cracks.  I picked a good time (MPC) to take a hiatus from the hobby.

 

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 I can't imagine anyone knowing what is available today having any interest in it...




 

One reason some folks might like MPC is their price point. For the most part MPC trains are much less expensive then the newly made stuff, or postwar.

 

Several folks have commented about a lack of pulling power. I guess my trains were not long enough. I never noticed.

 

To each their own!

Originally Posted by joe krasko:

Love MPC era Lionel...in years to come they will still run...can't say the same for big bucks electronic trains...Gotta love "E" units...joe

I retained four representative samples of MPC motive power in my collection of largely tinplate as I consider them to be plastic tinplate ( Plastic-plate?):

1. Colorful graphics

2. More artful characterization of the prototype than "realistic"= toy-like

3. Mechanically simple

4. Inexpensive

The motto on my road is as follows" "Any resemblance to realism is purely coincidental"

P.S I can redecorate them "anxiety free"

 

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I missed that era. My first train was an old Gilbert AF set. Then all my friends received HO sets for Christmas, so that was the thing to do. By the time I found Lionel (mid-90s), MPC was ancient history.

 

I think I have one car from that time period. It's a gondola that I bought for $2-3 not long after I got back into trains. I still run it; it's loaded with rolled coins for weight and sports a 3M Scotch-Brite pad squeezed in snugly underneath. Best track-cleaning car for the money! (I guess with its dedicated coin rolls it is worth more like $10-15 )

Over the years I've acquired many basic MPC cars from various sets. In the last year I decided to repaint them. I've only done the base paint and have not detailed or weathered them yet. But for the price I paid and a couple of cans of spray paint, I figure I'm ahead -- at least for return on investment.

 

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These are just the ones I turned grey. I've also done some in black and Tuscan red. With a load of scrap iron these will just blend into the layout.

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