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before spending dollars on lights thought i would spend a moment here

LED lights  have zero exp with them

incandescent,  sometimes are so bright that they show all the shadows of the structure

what is the answer

different level of incandescent bulbs? so that they are not so bright

just not happy with incandescent,  go to a lot of effort to be as accurate and "to scale" that i can be and the bulbs are so bright i see every stick of wood as a shadow on the outside

I want to light up all the buildings on my layout, single story, multiple story, firehouses, police dept, church, hmes, bars  well over 20 structures that need interior lights

all of them  but i dont want a bunch of boxes that glow in the dark so to speak   Correct lighting really adds to the layout IMHO and i need a light that can be replaced without soldering a new set of leads in,  bayonett base is good

when i lit my new church up i could see every single structural piece of basswood and balsa right thru the walls

not good

I would think that this size structure would need two low power lights to light only the windows

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Get some black craft paper and paste it to the walls. Alternatively you could try painting it flat black inside. The LED reels are good for buildings,especially stuck to the roof where they shine from overhead. Make sure you use warm white or yellow if you like that effect. Off a 10-12 transformer tap put a bridge rectifier in series to make a DC buss. Then power all your buildings from that buss line. You will have to solder a bit to use the strips but they work well in my experience. If they are too bright you can cut down the input voltage from the transformer or add a resistor in series to vary intensity to each individual building.

 

We live in an old church and we keep it brightly lighted at night to show off the stained glass windows. Inside they look different during the day as the sun moves.

 

Dale H

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Simplest solution is use a cheap transformer and lower the voltage until you are happy. Different light sets will need different voltages but I would think several buildings could be wired in parallel off the transformer.

 

Wiring a few buildings in series will also do this for you but the down side is figuring out which light went out - like the old Christmas light string.

 

There are several threads about lighting rolling stock, the same adjustable power supplies in those would also do the job.

Unless the building is really dark, you have to make the interior impervious to light. Aluminum foil or black paint on the interior are two choices. With lower brightness you can still have light coming through, just not as much. Led replacement bulbs are very directional and hard to get even light distribution. The strips work very well, but you can't do it without some electrical work.

Years ago I built a Rico Station kit. I divided all the floors and made separate rooms using black Evergreen panels. I then painted the interior walls black. I made false window coverings from stock paper. With different sized bulbs installed it took on a life of it's own in a darkened room. I took almost three months and $$ to complete.

I think lighting from the ceiling helps with even lighting.

 

LED's can be used with your current experience. Variable DC supply for building lighting, bayonet base, and LED's that are plug & play with a bayonet or screw base.

 

You can get those with a flat top which diffuses the light more evenly.

 

You probably won't have to replace LED's.

 

1445 round here   or frosted or inverted lens Ba9s here  14v LED section, warm white pic of section attached

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Originally Posted by Dale H:

Get some black craft paper and paste it to the walls. Alternatively you could try painting it flat black inside. The LED reels are good for buildings,especially stuck to the roof where they shine from overhead. Make sure you use warm white or yellow if you like that effect. Off a 10-12 transformer tap put a bridge rectifier in series to make a DC buss. Then power all your buildings from that buss line. You will have to solder a bit to use the strips but they work well in my experience. If they are too bright you can cut down the input voltage from the transformer or add a resistor in series to vary intensity to each individual building.

 

We live in an old church and we keep it brightly lighted at night to show off the stained glass windows. Inside they look different during the day as the sun moves.

 

Dale H

thanks for input.  going to create lots of labels

DC VOLTAGE ACCESSORIES13.6VDC

DC VOLTAGE ACCESSORIES 3VDC

AC VOLTAGE ACCESSORIES 18VAC

I GOT SOME STUFF THAT NEEDS DC WHAT YA GONNA DO IT IS WHAT IT IS

 

looking as you suggest covering or painting interior, does not make sense to go to that much trouble and have the whole bldg glow!

now if i can find them that is the incandescant bulbs that have about 12" wire already and they are little bulbs,  kind used in lamp shaded bulbs street corner lights

i kind of like them

 

AC VOLTAGE ACCESSORIES

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Originally Posted by pelago:
Originally Posted by Dale H:

Get some black craft paper and paste it to the walls. Alternatively you could try painting it flat black inside. The LED reels are good for buildings,especially stuck to the roof where they shine from overhead. Make sure you use warm white or yellow if you like that effect. Off a 10-12 transformer tap put a bridge rectifier in series to make a DC buss. Then power all your buildings from that buss line. You will have to solder a bit to use the strips but they work well in my experience. If they are too bright you can cut down the input voltage from the transformer or add a resistor in series to vary intensity to each individual building.

 

We live in an old church and we keep it brightly lighted at night to show off the stained glass windows. Inside they look different during the day as the sun moves.

 

Dale H

thanks for input.  going to create lots of labels

DC VOLTAGE ACCESSORIES13.6VDC

DC VOLTAGE ACCESSORIES 3VDC

AC VOLTAGE ACCESSORIES 18VAC

I GOT SOME STUFF THAT NEEDS DC WHAT YA GONNA DO IT IS WHAT IT IS

 

looking as you suggest covering or painting interior, does not make sense to go to that much trouble and have the whole bldg glow!

now if i can find them that is the incandescant bulbs that have about 12" wire already and they are little bulbs,  kind used in lamp shaded bulbs street corner lights

i kind of like them

 

AC VOLTAGE ACCESSORIES

The light bulbs will burn out and need replacing. The LEDs should last a very long time. I highly recommend the LED lighting strips or individual LEDs. From your 13.6 volt tap,install a bridge rectifier as a voltage dropper. That will give you a 12VDC buss for the strips,which require 12VDC or less. 

 

Dropping voltage with diodes is explained here

 

LINK

 

Or if you want to use individual LEDs,they can be wired in series off the 13.6 volt tap with a resistor. That is explained here

 

LINK2

 

If the LEDs are mounted on the roof and shine down,they should bleed through the building much less than a light bulb floor mounted since the LEDs have a 140 degree view angle.  A light bulb has almost a 360 degree view angle and would need a reflector for efficiency. Each 3 LEDs would use only about .25 watts of power and generate little heat. 

 

Dale

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went to the town and country web site and they have quite a deal on the wheat bulbs box of fifty for 30 bucks..  so why not bought a box, now to find the lampshades, i like to put them over back doors on buildings, looks appropriated, and i have used them all over my first tiny layout

i used two of them with lampshades on the front porchof  my country store. yeah they burn out once in  a  while  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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