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Hi everyone trainfam here,

 

if you’re friends or family, you know that I have a love for early Ives. About a year ago, I came across a interesting prewar o gauge Ives cross-track. It was listed as a possible Ives, and was dirt cheap (around $9.00), so I decided to purchase it. When I received the piece, I looked and found that there were no Ives stamp or markings of any other company. However I am still very certain that it is an Ives, but I don’t have any clue on what year it was made, what model number it is, or if it was in a set or not. I searched on the Ives train society but there was no mention of this cross track. If anyone has any idea about what this is please share your thoughts.

cross-track:

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                                                Trainfam

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I am no expert on Ives, but my limited knowledge of it is that the center rails that are supported by the posts similar to those on your crossover are found on early 2 rail wind-up track that was converted to 3 rail track.  Therefore, I suspect your item is an early wind-up piece that was converted for 3 rail operation.  This is further evident by the fact that the actual crossover center does not have a provision for the center rail.  

I suspect this design did not work well, as the engine would lose power while on the center of the crossover.  Therefore, it was likely a very short-lived item.

NWL

I am no expert on Ives, but my limited knowledge of it is that the center rails that are supported by the posts similar to those on your crossover are found on early 2 rail wind-up track that was converted to 3 rail track.  Therefore, I suspect your item is an early wind-up piece that was converted for 3 rail operation.  This is further evident by the fact that the actual crossover center does not have a provision for the center rail.  

I suspect this design did not work well, as the engine would lose power while on the center of the crossover.  Therefore, it was likely a very short-lived item.

NWL

I do recall that when I searched for the Cross-track on the Ives train society I came across a picture of some three rail track laying atop a 101-1-3 bridge. When I enhanced the image I found that the track had a different design of middle rail insulator. Here’s the picture:

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This supports your theory about the early Ives clockwork to electric track. It brings up the question about when Ives decided to change its track design, seems to be that it happened early in the 3-rail electric systems life. 

 

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If you go to the Ives Society website, and look at o gauge, accessories, miscellaneous, then track and scroll down the page, there is a picture of a switch that is c. 1912 and it lists it as being one of the earliest 3 rail switches.  It has center rail supports like your crossover.  

Additionally, the last two photos in this category have similar center rail supports.  

NWL

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If you go to the Ives Society website, and look at o gauge, accessories, miscellaneous, then track and scroll down the page, there is a picture of a switch that is c. 1912 and it lists it as being one of the earliest 3 rail switches.  It has center rail supports like your crossover.  

Additionally, the last two photos in this category have similar center rail supports.  

NWL

Well that seems to give me a good idea for when my track was made (1912), so do you believe it was in a set or was just a separate sale? 

 

                                                 Trainfam

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