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Not train related and will post in the tech section. Kept getting annoying pop up window asking me to install update to Java. Ignored it until this morning. Even though my Norton 360 said the upgrade was OK somehow it defeated my virus protection. I noticed that my laptop was running a bit slow so I did a system restore and that is when I found out that somehow the upgrade also contained some type of virus.

 

Just an FYI

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If you were getting a pop-up window telling you that a Java update is available, why would you ignore that? Java updates are common and I have done many. I recently did the exact same update you did and it downloaded and installed just fine. My AVG anti-virus software stayed out of the way said nothing at all about it.

 

When you install a program or do an update to an existing program you would normally shut down your virus protection for that procedure anyway. Many anti-virus programs think that an installation routine is a virus, simply because it is going to make modifications to the registry. What you probably saw was the normal and expected shutting down of the anti-virus program for the upgrade/install.

 

It is virtually impossible for a Java update to contain a virus. That would affect millions of people and would be BIG NEWS all over the internet.

Originally Posted by OGR Webmaster:
If you were getting a pop-up window telling you that a Java update is available, why would you ignore that? Java updates are common and I have done many. I recently did the exact same update you did and it downloaded and installed just fine. My AVG anti-virus software stayed out of the way said nothing at all about it.

When you install a program or do an update to an existing program you would normally shut down your virus protection for that procedure anyway. Many anti-virus programs think that an installation routine is a virus, simply because it is going to make modifications to the registry. What you probably saw was the normal and expected shutting down of the anti-virus program for the upgrade/install.

It is virtually impossible for a Java update to contain a virus. That would affect millions of people and would be BIG NEWS all over the internet.


The first attempt to update Java a couple of weeks ago failed so I just ignored the pop up window with the upgrade notice.

While the Java update may not have contained a virus perhaps there was one lingering on my laptop that was activated by the Norton 360 being compromised.

I did use the Norton 360 Removal and Installation tool and everything seems to be OK.

One of the reasons I suspected an issue with the update is my laptop became extremely slow. When I would type anything there was a noticeable delay. Once I did a system restore, which removed the Java update, and used the Norton 360 utility everything was OK.
Originally Posted by cbojanower:

FWIW Norton 360 is terrible. I'd look at a better suite, two years ago we took Norton off out 25,000 machines and work and replaced it with MacAfee. For home use I would look at AVAST or AVG

It's amazing all the various opinions on virus protection. The Geek Squad at Best Buy said that the majority of computers they get in for virus issues are ones running McAfee. In fact they said that Best Buy no longer sells it.

 

Micro-Center pushes one of their exclusive ones as well.

 

 

Originally Posted by cbojanower:
Geek Squad are the most rip-off repair available, they will push whatever pays them the most. Do yourself a favor, find a good local shop and avoid the squad at all costs

I agree with the above, don't ever buy a BB computer either. There all crap.

Geeksquad uses a "Custom" built CD that runs a bunch of programs to resolve problems. (Virus Scans, System Checks, Hardware Diagnostics)Most of theese programs are 

 

IMHO McAfee and Norton are both really big resource hogs. We use M$ System Center as our district wide (14,000) employee software and on our students computers. I use Microsoft Essentials (Free) for myself, read the reviews, its pretty good. Haven't had any issues, with the exception of a few false alarms everynow and then. 

Sometimes not upgrading JAVA is the best bet, especially if you use Oracle as your payroll /payment system. We still run 7.11 here because of compatibility issues. 

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