Hello! I have a beautiful JLC Big Boy 6-11126. Looking on the Lionel site, it shows the traction tires discontinued. Any help on finding some that will fit? Thanks!
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Hi just go o MTH website and order the size you need there much better tires then Lionell ever was!
TRACTION TIRE USE CHART_REVISED.xlsx (mthpartsandsales.com)
MTH Electric Trains (mthpartsandsales.com)
here is the MTH traction tire chart
Alan
p.s. you probably need DE0000025 part number 24.4 mm!
I agree with the statement regarding the MTH tires being better.
Just for reference, the Lionel traction tire P/N 6308071206 has P/N 6101207206 listed as an alternative.
The P/N 6308071206 is 1.00" ID x .046" TH x .118" WD. (out of stock)
The P/N 6101207206 is 1.00" ID x .050" TH x .118" WD. (in stock currently at the Lionel Parts website)
The MTH tires I have are ~1" ID x .056" TH x .123" WD
Probable will not matter, but at least you now have the information.
@DaveGG posted:The only problem I had using the MTH tires is they tend to be a bit thicker tire. So they can come close to touching the break shoes on the steam engines some times.
Say what? 
Almost always the Lionel tires are thicker than the MTH tires!
@DaveGG posted:I agree with the statement regarding the MTH tires being better. The only problem I had using the MTH tires is they tend to be a bit thicker tire. So they can come close to touching the break shoes on the steam engines some times.
Just for reference, the Lionel traction tire P/N 6308071206 has P/N 6101207206 listed as an alternative.
The P/N 6308071206 is 1.00" ID x .046" TH x .118" WD. (out of stock)
The P/N 6101207206 is 1.00" ID x .050" TH x .118" WD. (in stock currently at the Lionel Parts website)
The MTH tires I have are ~1" ID x .056" TH x .123" WD
Probable will not matter, but at least you now have the information.
Thank you for that info Dave. I must have got my numbers crossed because I was coming up with dead ends with the part number search.
Good info on the MTH traction tires!
@DaveGG posted:Well, not in this case. At least the ones that I have.
IMO, that's not an MTH tire.
I stock hundreds of MTH traction tires, all of them measure about half of that, from around .028 to .032. I've been using them for years, and I've never seen one that thick, that's a classic Lionel tire thickness. I go through several hundred traction tires a year, obviously mostly on customer engines. I'm pretty familiar with the differences between MTH and Lionel tires.
I just checked tires from the DE-0000018 to the DE-0000031 from my stock of new tires, all were within the .028 to .032 range.
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Gotta back John on this. I have found MTH tires are always thinner than Lionel's.
I purchased my so called MTH tires from a MTH repair tech at a local train show. It was my understanding these were MTH tires. All well.
Besides Lionel and MTH, who else makes replacement traction tires close to this size? Are they any better or worse?
@DaveGG posted:I purchased my so called MTH tires from a MTH repair tech at a local train show. It was my understanding these were MTH tires. All well.
IMO, they are not genuine MTH tires. I've never seen an MTH tire that thick, and I've been using them for a long time.
@DaveGG posted:Besides Lionel and MTH, who else makes replacement traction tires close to this size? Are they any better or worse?
Traction tires aren't a big business, not sure if there are other sources. I've seen them advertised from time to time with no source, but I haven't been tempted to buy any of them. I'd like to find a source for the narrow tires for brass, that seems to be a market void.
