K-Line Allegheny

I don't have the Allegheny, but all my other K-Lines have either 4 or 6 #6-32 screws that undo from the underside of the frame plate.

I expect yours is pretty similar.

Sometimes you have to study the front a bit to see which screw or screws to undo.

About the worst thing that can happen is something that you did not intend to take off becomes loose. No big deal.

Rod

Hi Al.  We have a RK model but its not here in front of me. They are all somewhat similar. You should find several screws at each end when resting on its back. Remove just two or three and then one at a time checking for when the shell releases. You don't want to remove more than necessary.

When it is released, carefully turn the locomotive back onto its wheels and lift the shell to one side keeping it parallel to the chassis. Be careful for wires that are connected. If you can place a towel or foam cradle alongside to place the shell on, you may be able to leave the wires connected.

Now you can service the smoke unit as needed.

Off hand...not looking at mine....two screws under the cab, two in the middle and two up at the front of the boiler and it lifts off. It has been a number of years since I opened it and don't totally remember the exact process. 

Thanks fellows. I was looking fro an easy way to disassemble the locomotive.

Al W.

OK, now I have the boiler off. The no-smoke condition still exists. THe resistor

is 20.5 ohms. THe fan doesnot turn. The resistor does not get warm. I replaced the R2LC08 receiver with one known to work. Still no smoke.

Any ideas here?

Al W.

Smoke on/off switch?

It sounds like power is not getting to your smoke unit.

With it powered up, maybe try measuring for AC power at the point where the wiring harness connects to the board.

In command mode it should be around 10 VAC.

If not present, try testing back through the wiring to the on/off switch, then back to the connection at the mother board.

Perhaps the on/off switch has failed?

Rod

Rod:

Thanks for the info. Reprogramming the locomotive restored the smoke. Now got to put it all back together including reassembling the smoke unit.

Al

Al;

Great that it works

BTW, I have a K-Line Allegheny cruise control kit new in the box that I will not likely ever need. Let me know if you are interested.

Rod

Rod, if Al is not interested and that will work with a kline diesel I may be interested. Thanks Mark

Rod:

Thanks for your kind offer but my Allegheny has cruise control.

In my final check before reassembly, I accidently shorted the hot side of the smoke resistor to ground. I had to reprogram the loco again. It smokes profusely but does not smoke in puffs synchonized to the chuffs. It has been so long since it smoked, I have forgotten if it was ever a puffer.

The K-Line manual gives no clue.

Al W. 

Al;

Lucky you did not cook the smoke unit triac on the L2RC board I guess.

Someone who has the Allegheny will hopefully chime in as to whether it chuffs or not, but my guess is that it should, especially since it is fan driven.

raildog;

As far as I know the cruise kit is only good for the Allegheny, since it includes a replacement motor with the speed sensing cage. The motor has the engine specific worm gear and mount bracket. Sorry about that.

Rod

Rod:

The loco chuffs it just doesn't "puff".

This thread is getting very educational-- I wondered what that fancy ring around the motor shaft just under the flywheel was for. Now thnaks to you I know -- or surmize.

al

Is there anybody out there who can tell me whether the K-Line Allegheny smoke puffs or not? 

Al W.

Hi Al W, I have that engine it just smokes no sync. smoke. Works well though,Vic.

Thanks:

I was afraid the short had caused a problem. Vic, does yor engine have TMCC?

Al

Yes It does.