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The fine K-Line 46xx series extruded-aluminum, streamlined passenger cars present easy LED strip conversion opportunities, with minimal disassembly required.  This post is written for the “general” car situation.  RPOs and observations have specific considerations which will be addressed in separate posts.  The cars depicted herein are the 18” versions.  The 21” and 15” renditions should be conceptually similar.

These cars include a rib down the centerline of the interior ceiling, from which the Streamline circuit board is supported via plastic U-brackets attached to its copper side. This allows the entire Streamlighting board to be extracted from the car after an end piece is removed. The LED strip physically replaces the bulbs and the board is easily reinstalled in the car. The entire conversion operation can take as little as 30 minutes, assuming LED strip and constant-current regulator pre-wired and ready for installation.

The first step is to remove the car end where the wires from the Streamlighting circuit board are located. This is usually the end of the car which does not have a vestibule, though production variations exist.  The car end is attached to the ceiling rib by a molded-in U-bracket and held in place at its bottom by screws entering it from the car's base plate. The two screws that attach the car's floor plate to the plastic end piece are removed, which frees up the end piece for extraction.

Next, the track power wire glue is loosened and the plug-and-socket connection between the truck power feeders and the Streamlighting board is opened. This permits the Streamlighting board to be extracted from the car by pulling it out of the open end, as shown below.

Extracting Streamlighting

It's not unusual for passenger figures to come unglued inside the car.  This point in the process is where the car floor plate and interior is most easily removed to re-glue the figures in place and attend to any other interior detailing desired.  The undercarriage detail piece and the two screws at the unopened end of the car need to be removed first.  Hot glue seems to work well to hold loose “people” in place.  The floor plate should be reinstalled before moving forward with the following steps.

To prepare the Streamlighting board for reuse, the bulbs and track power connection wires are removed from the board. Note that these need not be de-soldered; they can be clipped off, as board's circuit traces are not reused.  The board merely provides a surface for attachment of the LED strip. Don’t detach the U-brackets from the copper side of the Streamlighting board.  Most Streamlighting boards have pliable adhesive holding the lamps in place, but some have hard glue.  In the latter case, the glue should be removed using a sharp knife before the LED strip is attached.

Lighting Board

It is best if LED strip and track power wires (the latter previously disconnected from those attached to the car base plate) are connected to the constant-current regulator unit prior to attaching the strip to the Streamlighting board, as shown above. Regulator output wires should be 2½-3" in length. A piece of heat-shrinkable tubing should be placed over the regulator IC body, to prevent conduction from the metal back of the IC to the carbody, as it will be placed against the side in some cars.

Reg Insulated IC Rear  Regulator Insulated IC

While the residual adhesive (if pliable) of the incandesent bulbs and the adhesive backing of the LED strip should be sufficient to hold the strip in place atop the board, occasional dollops of hot glue add insurance of attachment integrity.  These pictures show 18” cars, which used 7-triplet LED strips.  21” cars will use 8-triplet LED strips, while 15” cars will use 6-triplet strips.

With the LED strip securely in place, the Streamlighting board is reinstalled onto the ceiling rib of the car. It should be pushed in far enough to accommodate the current regulator card's length, at the open end of the car. The track power wiring can now be reconnected at the car end.  (Though the car's base plate was removed to take the next photo, that is not normally part of the conversion procedure.)

Carbody Ceiling

The constant-current regulator should be attached to the carbody using double-sided foam tape, 1/8" thick.  The mounting location will depend on the nature of the car's interior.  The regulator should be oriented such that its tabbed IC and large capacitor are placed to facilitate removal of the base plate and interior assembly, to service or modify interior features. For the sleeper, the regulator was mounted to the roof, as shown in the photo below.  An additional, narrow strip of double-sided tape was added at the interior side of the regulator to compensate for roof curvature.  The outer edge of the card should be recessed about 1/8" from the edge of the car extrusion, to accomodate a locating tab on the car end piece.

Car End

Before replacing the car end piece, the regulator should be set to draw appropriate AC current from the track, at a voltage of 16-18 VAC.  Ensure that the track power from the car’s base plate is connected to the wire leading to the regulator input.  Connect a variable transformer output to the center rail pickup and a wheel axle, with a multimeter inserted in one of those leads. Raise AC voltage into the desired 16-18V range.  Then adjust the regulator's pot to achieve the desired track current.  With 7-triplet LED strips, 35 mA provides very good, but not excessive, illumination.  8-triplet strips would be set to 40 mA and 6-triplet strips set to 30 mA. (A DC power supply can also be used, using the same voltage and setting current draw to the same 35 mA.)  If 35 mA seems too bright, then try 25 mA (30 mA and 21 mA for longer or shorter cars).

Here's a completed sleeper:

Sleeper

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@KarlDL posted:

The fine K-Line 46xx series extruded-aluminum, streamlined passenger cars present easy LED strip conversion opportunities, with minimal disassembly required.  This post is written for the “general” car situation.  RPOs and observations have specific considerations which will be addressed in separate posts.  The cars depicted herein are the 18” versions.  The 21” and 15” renditions should be conceptually similar.

These cars include a rib down the centerline of the interior ceiling, from which the Streamline circuit board is supported via plastic U-brackets attached to its copper side. This allows the entire Streamlighting board to be extracted from the car after an end piece is removed. The LED strip physically replaces the bulbs and the board is easily reinstalled in the car. The entire conversion operation can take as little as 30 minutes, assuming LED strip and constant-current regulator pre-wired and ready for installation.

The first step is to remove the car end where the wires from the Streamlighting circuit board are located. This is usually the end of the car which does not have a vestibule, though production variations exist.  The car end is attached to the ceiling rib by a molded-in U-bracket and held in place at its bottom by screws entering it from the car's base plate. The two screws that attach the car's floor plate to the plastic end piece are removed, which frees up the end piece for extraction.

Next, the track power wire glue is loosened and the plug-and-socket connection between the truck power feeders and the Streamlighting board is opened. This permits the Streamlighting board to be extracted from the car by pulling it out of the open end, as shown below.

Extracting Streamlighting

It's not unusual for passenger figures to come unglued inside the car.  This point in the process is where the car floor plate and interior is most easily removed to re-glue the figures in place and attend to any other interior detailing desired.  The undercarriage detail piece and the two screws at the unopened end of the car need to be removed first.  Hot glue seems to work well to hold loose “people” in place.  The floor plate should be reinstalled before moving forward with the following steps.

To prepare the Streamlighting board for reuse, the bulbs and track power connection wires are removed from the board. Note that these need not be de-soldered; they can be clipped off, as board's circuit traces are not reused.  The board merely provides a surface for attachment of the LED strip. Don’t detach the U-brackets from the copper side of the Streamlighting board.  Most Streamlighting boards have pliable adhesive holding the lamps in place, but some have hard glue.  In the latter case, the glue should be removed using a sharp knife before the LED strip is attached.

Lighting Board

It is best if LED strip and track power wires (the latter previously disconnected from those attached to the car base plate) are connected to the constant-current regulator unit prior to attaching the strip to the Streamlighting board, as shown above. Regulator output wires should be 2½-3" in length. A piece of heat-shrinkable tubing should be placed over the regulator IC body, to prevent conduction from the metal back of the IC to the carbody, as it will be placed against the side in some cars.

Reg Insulated IC Rear  Regulator Insulated IC

While the residual adhesive (if pliable) of the incandesent bulbs and the adhesive backing of the LED strip should be sufficient to hold the strip in place atop the board, occasional dollops of hot glue add insurance of attachment integrity.  These pictures show 18” cars, which used 7-triplet LED strips.  21” cars will use 8-triplet LED strips, while 15” cars will use 6-triplet strips.

With the LED strip securely in place, the Streamlighting board is reinstalled onto the ceiling rib of the car. It should be pushed in far enough to accommodate the current regulator card's length, at the open end of the car. The track power wiring can now be reconnected at the car end.  (Though the car's base plate was removed to take the next photo, that is not normally part of the conversion procedure.)

Carbody Ceiling

The constant-current regulator should be attached to the carbody using double-sided foam tape, 1/8" thick.  The mounting location will depend on the nature of the car's interior.  The regulator should be oriented such that its tabbed IC and large capacitor are placed to facilitate removal of the base plate and interior assembly, to service or modify interior features. For the sleeper, the regulator was mounted to the roof, as shown in the photo below.  An additional, narrow strip of double-sided tape was added at the interior side of the regulator to compensate for roof curvature.  The outer edge of the card should be recessed about 1/8" from the edge of the car extrusion, to accomodate a locating tab on the car end piece.

Car End

Before replacing the car end piece, the regulator should be set to draw appropriate AC current from the track, at a voltage of 16-18 VAC.  Ensure that the track power from the car’s base plate is connected to the wire leading to the regulator input.  Connect a variable transformer output to the center rail pickup and a wheel axle, with a multimeter inserted in one of those leads. Raise AC voltage into the desired 16-18V range.  Then adjust the regulator's pot to achieve the desired track current.  With 7-triplet LED strips, 35 mA provides very good, but not excessive, illumination.  8-triplet strips would be set to 40 mA and 6-triplet strips set to 30 mA. (A DC power supply can also be used, using the same voltage and setting current draw to the same 35 mA.)  If 35 mA seems too bright, then try 25 mA (30 mA and 21 mA for longer or shorter cars).

Here's a completed sleeper:

Sleeper

The strips you are using look to be 24v and have 3M backing tape already installed. I peel the back stick to shell and then connect two wires. Since they are rated at 24v no voltage regulator is required unless you are looking for flicker free.

The strips are 12V, three LED's and a 100 or 150 ohm resistor for each segment.

Using the wrong strips then, Amazon sells a 24v strip with the 3M backing the roll has more than enough to outfit 6 cars with no issues.

CT CAPETRONIX Warm White LED Strip Light,16.4 Feet 24 Volt LED Light Strip, 3000K Super Bright LED Tape Light, for Bedroom, Kitchen, Closet, Cabinet, Vanity Mirror, Indoor Only, (Dimmer Included)



BTW the lower track voltage keeps them at a perfect light output.

Last edited by ThatGuy

My project descriptions assume (1) 12V strips are being used and (2) an adjustable current regulator feeds them so that the lighting intensity can be adjusted to suit the user's preferences.

Using a 24V LED strip is certainly practical, if constant track voltage (18ish V) is used.  An onboard rectifier/filter converting the AC track voltage to DC will hold up the strip during momentary losses of power (e.g., going over turnouts), for flicker-free operation.  The DC output voltage with a Powerhouse 180 feeding the track will be around 21-22V, depending on train loading of the Powerhouse.  If the intensity is too much, just put a resistor in series with the strip DC feed to limit the current.  Some experimentation in resistor value would be needed.  Not having any 24V LED strips lying around to measure, I can't suggest any specific resistor values.

Last edited by KarlDL

Functional equivalents to GRJ's regulator are available from Royz Trains and forum member Rod Stewart.

GRJ's version is the smallest, Roy's has the greatest flicker protection and adjustment resolution, Rod's is the least expensive and in the middle on flicker protection.  Buy the one that best fits your application.

@KarlDL posted:

As to variation of light intensity, the pot rez is irrelevant.  It matters only to achieve a specific target current, but being a mA or two away won't notably change illumination of a pax car.

Well, yes and no.  It's easier to match intensity when the full travel of the pot linearly adjusts the current than it is if the whole range of dim to bright is just a small fraction of the pot travel.  Not saying it can't be done, just makes it easier for those that are picky about the light levels.

...  It's easier to match intensity when the full travel of the pot linearly adjusts the current than it is if the whole range of dim to bright is just a small fraction of the pot travel.  ...

As I feared, we are not talking about the same thing.  It appears that you are considering the range, a function of pot resistance and whatever fixed resistor is in series to set a maximum current limit.  Obviously, that needs to be optimized for the particular application, but I expect that you picked the values on your card based on considerable experience.  I am talking, essentially, about the pot's turns count, i.e., a 200 Ohm 10-turn pot has greater resolution (versus rotation) than a 200 Ohm single-turn pot, though both have the same range of illumination.  Roy uses multi-turn pots on his cards.

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