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Key Model Imports

Model: PA 2000 1/2

Produced: 2010

Builder: FM Train Model of Korea

 

 

Not trying to confuse with another post that was a little long and off topic. I wanted to be sure and add a

few more images of the detailing found on these superb fine models. 

 

 

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Indian Head (Head-dress logos) are exactly like the prototype, separately applied, 

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Builders Plaque, like most in this area I can read it, will the forum software retain the resolution of the image so you can too?

 

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Diaphragm sets are clever and look and work just like the real thing.

 

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Full compliment of MU lines, Steam lines and cut levers. Everything is installed that is physically possible while still retaining operation. Kadee's are obviously oversize; spoils the effect.

 

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The radiator grills are a true work of art and functional vanes move to desired angle. Furthermore radiator detailing is behind the grill sets.

These models unlike many diesels of any run have fully detailed interiors. Some models have etched brass plates simulating the engine room detail. These models actually like larger 1 scale models have detailed engines and generators, cabinets, toilets, radiators, fans, etc. 

 

 

 

 

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A repeated look at a true masterpiece of O Scale builders art. It is hard to believe these were actually production models and not a one time hand built model. These models also feature exact reproduction of the proportions and dimensions found on its 1:1 cousins.

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I took these images while installing DCC on my Rio Grande set earlier this Summer and posted them before however feel it advantageous to include them in this thread for future reference. Please excuse the poor image quality. 

 

 

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Another peek at the radiator grills. 

 

 

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That was a factory paint model that Roger Lewis used to own. It's for sale.. But with the new Sunset models here good luck huh!  I believe it is a Hallmark Ajin Korea.


Originally Posted by marker:

       
In the other thread, there was a picture with a Santa Fe FT in the background. Who produced that one?  I noticed that just yesterday.


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I am not 100% sure of the equivalent in "O-XX" land but this model requires at least a 84" radius in 2 rail.

Originally Posted by daylight:

       

very nice, thank you for sharing.  Currently using 3 rail engines and accessories.

 

Question: if a 3 rail engine requires 072 (minimum) then would the same engine in 2 rail scale require 084 as a minimum?

 

Thank you

Bill,

I followed this project from the start when they were announced back in 2002. I was a skeptic since the Samhongsa models were full of errors. The 1988 Samhongsas were wonderful for the time back in 1989 but by today's standards the Samhongsa 1989 run missed the boat on a lot of issues.

Dave and crew at Key were pushed to the end to get these right; "best PA in any scale ever built" and I believe they did. At full retail of near $7000 for a 3 unit set sadly it was out of reach for most of us myself included. MTH did a pretty good job with the scale PA; sadly it needs everything below the belt rebuilt to make it right.



Originally Posted by Bill McBride:

       
Thank you, those are simply exquisite.

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Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
I am not 100% sure of the equivalent in "O-XX" land but this model requires at least a 84" radius in 2 rail.

Originally Posted by daylight:

       

very nice, thank you for sharing.  Currently using 3 rail engines and accessories.

 

Question: if a 3 rail engine requires 072 (minimum) then would the same engine in 2 rail scale require 084 as a minimum?

 

Thank you


So is a 084 curve is not  the same as a 084 radius?  Seems it would require twice as much room for a turn around???  Is that correct?

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Thank you graciously Jeff for clarification on the radius issue.


Moving onward looking at the O scale Samhongsa 1989 run piece imported by Dan McKey of Key Imports we can see obvious improvement and despite a 30+ year old piece still stands its ground well as one of the finest PA models produced along with its 1:32 counterparts also produced in 1989-1990 by master builder Samhongsa


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A victim of "high water pants" I am not sure why.


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The pilot on the KMI version like any modern brass is refined with a finer degree of filigree. The ridge along the side of the nose above the anti-climber is superbly carried out by FM Train Model, a truly high degree of hand assembled care area on these pieces.


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Both noses are very well carried out. To think this was almost missed on the FM Train Model! Rumor has it the original official ALCO drawings are sans this VERY important element in this locomotives design. I still wonder why, thankfully the fans stepped up and made some noise!


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Grillwork on the 2010 model is nothing short of amazing. Back in 1989 the etching process must have been not as refined? Or was this just simply overlooked?


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High Water Pants plagues the 1989 Samhongsa model in effect making it sit higher than prototype specs. The end detail in 1989 was top notch; the 2010 FM Train version is approaching too complex for reliable operation. A tight line to walk in this business, too far and they short and too little a 3 rail toy train.


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Hands down the FM Train Model project in 2010 is profound in this area. The completely re-visited trucks are nothing short of masterpieces in their own right. A model upon themselves that much is certain.



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Typical of 1989 run models or earlier the hobbyist simply did not demand "everything" despite being seen or not. The 2010 run model is off the charts.


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Samhongsa's 1989 PA


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Alone both models are a masterpiece. Beside one another not looking at prototype differences (horns on #51 L/A/C) the roof line is "too" exaggerated in upward curvature. Looking at prototype photos reveals the low profile and lean looks of the FM Train Model 2010 run is nearly a perfect execution of the project.

Probably not worth mentioning is the color. I feel the 2010 project hit it out of the park on Santa Fe's "Indian Red".

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These are amazing engines.  All of this high level brass is top notch and quite pleasing to look at.  But the admission to that playground is out of my league.  God forbid an O scale brass BNSF 9647 shows up somewhere, I'll be sunk for sure.

Nice camera work BTW Eric.  Can you show a pic of your photo setup?  Is it white/light box?
These were taken by my friend Roger Lewis. They are of the early Samhongsa 1988-1990 run of a late modified prototype likely 1960's era F units.

My era is really 1940-1950 late steam and early diesels. I prefer the early passenger power over the F3-F10 crowd. FT's are ok with me but lack the drop dead beauty the PA and E's have flanked in stainless.

Personally I'm not that big of a fan of the F's although they were by far the primary power used on the passenger atsf trains. I don't like to model the common; interesting and unique is what I prefer. F units have been done by everybody and his brother and are popular, atlas, p&d, general models, all nation, atlas 1970's, every brass importer. Hence all my buddies have fleets of them. I like to add spice to the mix.




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Originally Posted by daylight:
Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
Neither will operate on 54" radius-- I learned that. However 72" seems ok for the both.

does a 72" radius equal a 144 curve in three rail terms?

 

Yes. Plus you need clearance for equipment overhang, so your layout space would need to be about 13'6" wide to run that size curve...

 

Jeff C

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