Lackawanna E8 colors 2020 ......I know I know another one

Red seems to be the hardest shade for Lionel to get right.

Having said that, your loco( in your photo) at least seems to be in the same color family, just a lighter shade. Other reds have been completely in left field.

Maybe their paint tech has a medical condition?:

"People with deuteranomaly and protanomaly are collectively known as red-green colour blind and they generally have difficulty distinguishing between reds, greens, browns and oranges. ... To these people the world appears as generally red, pink, black, white, grey and turquoise."

That certainly  could explain the PRR issues.

I don't expect different manufacturers colors to match.

What's going on in that cab though?

Oh boy.  I feel sorry for the many people who are disappointed with the color of their models. Here’s what the Lackawanna E8’s should look like and I know because I helped paint the real E8 #807 we owned.

I very heavily invested in Lionel’s New York Ontario & Western F3 A-B-B-A diesel sets.  They arrived painted totally wrong not once but twice!

If you or any unsatisfied consumer decide to return items to your dealer, your dealer should be able to send them back to their distributor for a full refund.  I know that’s what I do all the time for my unsatisfied customers.

I always thought k-line's Lackawanna maroon was too red as well.  The mth scale Lackawanna passenger cars seem VERY close.  Lionel's 2006 tmcc H24-66 #850 match those mth cars almost perfectly as well.  I think that's as close as anyone gets on a model

Lionel dropped the ball on these new E8's with the wrong color Maroon. MTH had the gray too dark on their Train Masters and those 807 & 808 were PRR E8's painted as DL&W. DL&W E8 A units were numbered 810-820. Kline was the only one to get all three colors right when they did there Train Masters, F3 ABA and both heavyweights and streamline passenger cars.

Here is a couple of pictures in different light settings of MTH's Premier E-8 Erie Lackawanna #822 A unit and a Weaver E-8 #810 B unit for comparison.  I've been told that Lackawanna grey is lighter and closer to a Right Of Way grey than the Erie Lackawanna grey.  I don't know about the maroon or yellow?

@Pennsy641 posted:

Reading the post about the Pennsy E8 colors being off, I picked up my Lackawanna E8 set the other day.  Sure enough I believe the red is off. In the picture are the new E8's with my set of K-Line passenger cars. I feel the red on the E8's are too red.   Should be more of a burgundy or so, as on the passenger cars. What do you think?  I also wanted to share so people can see them if they are thinking about ordering them.

The red is not correct.  Whether or not you can live with it is your decision.

I have pre-ordered some SP E-8s that will be delivered in February 2021 according to Lionel's schedule.  The models are most likely already in production.  I really hope that Lionel gets the SP reds and other colors correct so that they will match the cars that I already own.  At nearly $1K for an A/B set, these are expensive models and should be right.  NH Joe

@Chas posted:

Here is a couple of pictures in different light settings of MTH's Premier E-8 Erie Lackawanna #822 A unit and a Weaver E-8 #810 B unit for comparison.  I've been told that Lackawanna grey is lighter and closer to a Right Of Way grey than the Erie Lackawanna grey.  I don't know about the maroon or yellow?

You are correct, the DL&W gray was MOW gray as delivered. It got darker due to sun bathing.

@DL&W Pete posted:

Lionel dropped the ball on these new E8's with the wrong color Maroon. MTH had the gray too dark on their Train Masters and those 807 & 808 were PRR E8's painted as DL&W. DL&W E8 A units were numbered 810-820. Kline was the only one to get all three colors right when they did there Train Masters, F3 ABA and both heavyweights and streamline passenger cars.

I think it was the Central New York chapter of National Railway Historical Societies input with MTH to make them as 807 & 808.  I wish MTH would have made the last run of Erie Lackawanna E-8's numbered in 810-820 with the Mars light E-8 mold.  They used a set of multi-chime horns on the engineers side and a single chime horn on the fireman's side on 820 and 822 which were exclusive to the ex Lackawanna 810-820 E-8's.  The MTH Erie Lackawanna/ex Erie E-8's 820 and 822 should only have only one set of multi-chime horns on the engineers side as shown on JR Junctions 807 and 808.

@Chas posted:

Here is a couple of pictures in different light settings of MTH's Premier E-8 Erie Lackawanna #822 A unit and a Weaver E-8 #810 B unit for comparison.  I've been told that Lackawanna grey is lighter and closer to a Right Of Way grey than the Erie Lackawanna grey.  I don't know about the maroon or yellow?

I always thought that the old Weaver Lackawanna E8's were the best, in terms of accuracy of the colors of the paint scheme.  They are off in terms of a few details that can be corrected pretty easily.