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I recently got the Cab 1L to run a Lionamster Challenger.  I really like it.  I would like to expand this remote capability by running a sawmill off a siding with a turnout.  There is an add on to Legacy for switches and accessories (6-22980) TMCC SC2 switch controller.   Or (6-14182) Accessory switch controller?  Is this all I need to run the sawmill with Cab 1L?

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Originally Posted by POTRZBE:

I recently got the Cab 1L to run a Lionamster Challenger.  I really like it.  I would like to expand this remote capability by running a sawmill off a siding with a turnout.  There is an add on to Legacy for switches and accessories (6-22980) TMCC SC2 switch controller.   Or (6-14182) Accessory switch controller?  Is this all I need to run the sawmill with Cab 1L?

I don't think the CAB1L system will address the SC2. You can operate the ASC controller with the connector cable plugged into the CAB1L base DB9 outlet.

Lionel has a new ASC2 controller as part of the Legacy Control System. It is part number 6-81639 with a list price of $119.95. According to the description you will need a power supply and some additional components to operate it. That may prove very costly.

 

You can however operate the original ASC controller by connecting a 6-14191 Command Control Cable to the DB9 outlet on the CAB1L base and then connect the cable to the ASC. Provide power to the ASC and connect your sawmill.

 

If you decide to go the ASC route you better hurry because all of these products are considered to be discontinued. So if you are thinking about any of the other controller products you might want to get them sooner rather than latter.

 

Just another thought. The ASC will only turn an accessory on or off as well as lights. You might look into the Accessory Motor Controller instead.

 

BTW: I have all of the Lionel/IC Controls products connected to my CAB1L base and they all work just fine.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

One benefit of the SC-2 is that you don't have to cable it to the base, it receives the track signal like a locomotive.

Why would the SC-2 be able to be controlled by the CAB1L when the original Powermaster operating on the same frequency cannot.

Originally Posted by Trainman9:
Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

One benefit of the SC-2 is that you don't have to cable it to the base, it receives the track signal like a locomotive.

Why would the SC-2 be able to be controlled by the CAB1L when the original Powermaster operating on the same frequency cannot.

The original PowerMaster works from the radio signal from the remote, in the same way that the original CAB-1 base does. All other devices operate from either a serial cable signal, or else from the track signal.

Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

Since the SC-2 receives the 455khz signal and not the 27mhz signal, it works just fine with the either Legacy base.

 

Yep, just checked with Lionel customer service and both the Legacy #990 system and the CAB1L can operate the SC-2.

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The ONLY device that received the 27mhz signal of the old CAB1, other than the BASE1, was the original PowerMaster.  All other devices either were cabled to the base serial port for their commands, or receive the 455khz track signal, the same as TMCC/Legacy locomotives.  The ONLY thing in the Legacy or Legacy Lite universe that receives the 2.4ghz signal from the remotes is their respective bases.

 

The SC-1 and SC-2 fall into the class of devices that receive the TMCC track signal directly.  They don't know about 27mhz or 2.4ghz, and never did.

 

Of course, you could have just believed us when we told you how it worked.

 

Last edited by gunrunnerjohn
Originally Posted by gunrunnerjohn:

The ONLY device that received the 27mhz signal of the old CAB1, other than the BASE1, was the original PowerMaster.  All other devices either were cabled to the base serial port for their commands, or receive the 455khz track signal, the same as TMCC/Legacy locomotives.  The ONLY thing in the Legacy or Legacy Lite universe that receives the 2.4ghz signal from the remotes is their respective bases.

 

The SC-1 and SC-2 fall into the class of devices that receive the TMCC track signal directly.  They don't know about 27mhz or 2.4ghz, and never did.

 

Of course, you could have just believed us when we told you how it worked.

 

I'm so glad we have an expert like you on the forum. Don't know what the world would be like without you.

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