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ehkempf posted:

Back in 2006 (vol. 2) when Legacy was first announced there was pictured in that a catalog a console with two Cab 2's (one on each side of a console with what appears to be a display screen). What was that suppose to be and what ever happened to that idea?

 

Thanks,

Ed

It was never made.  The LSC iPad App is the replacement.  The question is can Lionel make a "Lionel Branded" iPad cradle?  I suspect it's probably not worth their expense to design and build something that is already available, minus the branding, on the open market.  That being said if you really want something produced, Mike Phillips is the guy to ask at York.

Thank you for the reply, but that does not really answer my question.  What was this console suppose to do?  I do not have a IPad or IPhone and have no intention of ever getting one (call me old school).  I thought that Lionel was suppose to open up the Legacy Spec's so more third party companies could/would make add-ons and accessories.

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ehkempf posted:

Thank you for the reply, but that does not really answer my question.

Well it did, you just changed the question.

  What was this console suppose to do?  I do not have a IPad or IPhone and have no intention of ever getting one (call me old school).  I thought that Lionel was suppose to open up the Legacy Spec's so more third party companies could/would make add-ons and accessories.

See Johns post to answer "What I really meant to ask" question.

 

MartyE posted:
ehkempf posted:

Thank you for the reply, but that does not really answer my question.

Well it did, you just changed the question.

  What was this console suppose to do?  I do not have a IPad or IPhone and have no intention of ever getting one (call me old school).  I thought that Lionel was suppose to open up the Legacy Spec's so more third party companies could/would make add-ons and accessories.

See Johns post to answer "What I really meant to ask" question.

 

My intention was not to change the question.  Your answer is not answering what the console was suppose to do. Back in 2006 wireless use with smart phones was not available.  So I guess it is safe to assume (hate using that word) that the console was to enhance operational use with a graphical interface. The reason I brought up the release of the specs was a stab at asking why if Lionel did not bring the console out, some other vendor has not jumped on the idea.  Not everyone is into wireless or the use of such extremely small screens.

ehkempf posted:

The reason I brought up the release of the specs was a stab at asking why if Lionel did not bring the console out, some other vendor has not jumped on the idea.  Not everyone is into wireless or the use of such extremely small screens.

My guess is the smart devices make someone building something from scratch too expensive to a small market.

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I would assume that is was intended to simply provide a nice, cohesive "packaged display" of the iPad along with the Cab-2 remotes. It probably did nothing more than provide a charging port for the iPad when docked.

I'm guessing that it got killed since most would simply hold the iPad and the models are constantly changing is size so Lionel would have to develop a series of cradle inserts to accommodate each new iPad model.

Otherwise, the LCS software is pretty much doing what they intended - with or without the cradle.

 

graz posted:

I would assume that is was intended to simply provide a nice, cohesive "packaged display" of the iPad along with the Cab-2 remotes. It probably did nothing more than provide a charging port for the iPad when docked.

I'm guessing that it got killed since most would simply hold the iPad and the models are constantly changing is size so Lionel would have to develop a series of cradle inserts to accommodate each new iPad model.

Otherwise, the LCS software is pretty much doing what they intended - with or without the cradle.

 

The console was shown in the 2006 Vol. 2 catalog.  The first IPad was introduced in 2010.  The original concept had nothing to do with the IPad, as it wasn't invented yet.

ehkempf posted:
graz posted:

I would assume that is was intended to simply provide a nice, cohesive "packaged display" of the iPad along with the Cab-2 remotes. It probably did nothing more than provide a charging port for the iPad when docked.

I'm guessing that it got killed since most would simply hold the iPad and the models are constantly changing is size so Lionel would have to develop a series of cradle inserts to accommodate each new iPad model.

Otherwise, the LCS software is pretty much doing what they intended - with or without the cradle.

 

The console was shown in the 2006 Vol. 2 catalog.  The first IPad was introduced in 2010.  The original concept had nothing to do with the IPad, as it wasn't invented yet.

How do you know that the iPad was not invented yet?  Maybe Neil and Steve talked about this while the iPad was in development?  While the iPad was released in 2010, it certainly was not invented in 2010; it takes years to develop such a product and bring it to market...

Jon Zahornacky addressed this specifically on a recent podcast at Notch 6. The display was envisioned (no pun intended) to be a touchscreen for layout control, much like what was later developed for the iPad. The catalog stated it was "coming soon," but Jon Z. said that was a surprise to both him and Jerry Calabrese. It wasn't, and it never did--until the iPad came around.

Cheers!

Keith

SantaFeFan posted:

How do you know that the iPad was not invented yet?  Maybe Neil and Steve talked about this while the iPad was in development?  While the iPad was released in 2010, it certainly was not invented in 2010; it takes years to develop such a product and bring it to market...

Star Trek the Next Generation was using them in 1987...

SantaFeFan posted:
ehkempf posted:
graz posted:

I would assume that is was intended to simply provide a nice, cohesive "packaged display" of the iPad along with the Cab-2 remotes. It probably did nothing more than provide a charging port for the iPad when docked.

I'm guessing that it got killed since most would simply hold the iPad and the models are constantly changing is size so Lionel would have to develop a series of cradle inserts to accommodate each new iPad model.

Otherwise, the LCS software is pretty much doing what they intended - with or without the cradle.

 

The console was shown in the 2006 Vol. 2 catalog.  The first IPad was introduced in 2010.  The original concept had nothing to do with the IPad, as it wasn't invented yet.

How do you know that the iPad was not invented yet?  Maybe Neil and Steve talked about this while the iPad was in development?  While the iPad was released in 2010, it certainly was not invented in 2010; it takes years to develop such a product and bring it to market...

This was not meant to be a argument. Even if the IPad was in design phase back in 2006 the interface with Legacy, that being a wireless connection, probably was not. My assumption was that the console was meant to be a self contained system.  Lionel had just released the Legacy system, they surely had not released the specs to anyone else back at that early stage of development, so how would Apple or any other programmer outside of Lionel have come up with interface software.

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