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Ok. So last weekend I finally decided to paint the breadboard sides to my large layout. Everything went well but I accidentally unplugged the power plug to my Legacy base. Of course, after just plugging it back in, the train worked only in conventional mode. So I unplugged both the 180w Powerhouse brick and the Legacy command and plugged in the base first and then the brick. Now, when I turn on the Legacy command and then the brick, the train turns on (lights up and makes diesel idle noise) but does not run nor respond to any controls on the command pad. I know I am missing something obvious but can anyone offer an advice?

Thanks!

John

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If the train initially started up in conventional then base was not connected to the ground.  If you have a meter, check the continuity between the base and the outer rail of your track.   How do you physically have the brick connected to the track.  If everything checks out and AUX1, R didn't work, try reprogramming the engine.

 

So I unplugged both the 180w Powerhouse brick and the Legacy command and plugged in the base first and then the brick. Now, when I turn on the Legacy command and then the brick, the train turns on (lights up and makes diesel idle noise) but does not run nor respond to any controls on the command pad

What you are describing is the engine still in conventional mode (lights up and idle noise).  If I pull my ground wire from my base and turn on track power, the engine starts up in conventional.  It can't respond to any commands from the base.  As soon as I plug the ground wire back into the base, the engine goes silent and is waiting for commands from the remote.  So, assuming the power cord is plugged into the base, what you are describing sounds like you have no ground connection to your base.  Most likely it is the base to outer track connection that is bad if that is how your base is wired.  I have my base ground connected to the common terminal of my power supply.

 

trnluvr posted:
cubalz posted:

JFC454: No the train was not running nor was the power strip turned on that connects it all to the wall at the time that it happened.

Try plugging the base directly to the outlet or a known good grounded extension cord. TMCC/Legacy don't always work well with power strips.

Doug

 

Since the ground wire on the base connects to the house ground through the common terminal of the layout's power supply, that main power supply needs to be plugged into a good grounded outlet.   I don't know if the base's own power supply is sensitive to ground problems as well.  

Update: Last night I pulled up the track where the base connects and indeed the black wire was disconnected from the outside rail. So now when I address the engine, all functionality works (lights, sounds etc) but it will not move. When I turn the knob up, it makes a buzzing noise internally and get louder as I turn it up but it does not move. I did check to make sure that it is on the track correctly and the pickups are touching the 3rd rail properly, Thanks to all for getting me this far, any other advice? This is getting so frustrating....

 

BTW: the engine is a Lionel TMCC and has worked perfectly on my layout in the current configuration.

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GunrunnerJohn: It ran fine in conventional mode. Oddly before I accidentally pulled the wire from outside rail, it only had been around the track 2 times and ran flawlessly using the Legacy command set for that run. Maybe 1 minute of run time. It is a Lionel Dash 8 from the 6-21752 Conrail trailer train set. I bought it from someone that never unpackaged it.

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I'm at a loss, I think that's one I'd have to see to understand what is happening.  The buzzing noise that gets louder with the throttle screams out motor running and not connected to the wheels.  If the motor that has the odyssey sensor on it is the one slipping, in command mode it would be quite possible the other motor wouldn't get enough power to move the locomotive.  If this has the LionDrive twist-off trucks, the little nub that links the motor to the truck may have come loose, I've seen this several times.

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