Legacy Module - Vision Hudson

Peter,

My SD70ACE came without the module, I called Lionel and they sent me a knew one. Also, you could check the Service and Support site, they may have the data file on line. 

Send them and email at talktous@lionel.com 

They are very responsive. They might even be able to walk you through the process of downloading the data file. You won't need to return it, but the number is below.

Kevin 

Drive it over the Sensor track and it'll load all the data for the engine into the Legacy base.  Then you can write that data to the black module.  While you're at it, you might consider just making a multi-engine module for all your engines.

John,

Totally forgot about the sensor track. That works too.

jojofry - yeah, its not the $5 that concerns me.

I called Lionel - they said they do not carry that module. The woman I spoke to went on to say that they are doing away with the modules.

GRJ - excellent suggestion! So basically take the LCS track piece from my VLBB box and add it to some fastrack and run locomotive over it? And then do what exactly?

Thanks,

Peter

Once you've run across the LCS track (of course you have to install it first using the bits that came with the VL-BB), then using the LSU (Legacy System Utility) software, you can create an engine module.  I create a multi-engine module with all the engines in the base so when I go somewhere I have the engine particulars ready for anything I run.  Read all about it in the LSU manual below.

Lionel. Legacy System Utility. User's Guide. Version 2

You do realize that there are fairly easy ways to integrate the sensor track into other track systems, right?  Here's the sensor track integrated into Atlas track, this works for Gargraves or Ross very similarly.  This was just a "test" so we tossed some ballast around.  Some proper ballasting and you hardly know it's there.  With this, you can automatically grab the parameters as you drive around the layout.  In addition, you can use the sensor track capabilities to run some neat routes.

They are getting Rid of the modules?

What is the plan to load data into the controller and base if you don't have a sensor track? 

PSU1980 posted:

They are getting Rid of the modules?

Yep!

PSU1980 posted:

What is the plan to load data into the controller and base if you don't have a sensor track? 

 

 You manually key it in.  There's nothing in the module you can enter on the CAB2 or via the LSU.

I removed mine from the sensor track and cut a spot in my table and mounted it . Put my track over it  (gargraves) and it works great. I dont think i have  touched a orange module in about 15 months..

Sounds like a PIA. Means if you don't have a layout at home right now, you need to make a small test layout. I like the modules, quick and easy.

Guess I will go by that super expensive fast track to build a test bed layout.

Ugh. Keep the modules!!!

PSU1980 posted:

Sounds like a PIA. Means if you don't have a layout at home right now, you need to make a small test layout. I like the modules, quick and easy.

Guess I will go by that super expensive fast track to build a test bed layout.

Ugh. Keep the modules!!!

No is stupid easy now.. Program engine drive over the track done! Its almost as easy and DCS.. No 4000 million orange modules to keep track of.I leave them in the box and dont touch them)

Provided you have a layout using fast tracks or convert a section of the layout, my options will be a small test bed.

PSU1980 posted:

Provided you have a layout using fast tracks or convert a section of the layout, my options will be a small test bed.

You can make the track do things to every time my engine goes over it blows it's whistle .. 

Whoa, in addition to hooking up that small track piece that came with my VLBB I will need some other equipment or pieces to program the black module with the locomotive specifics?

PJB posted:

Whoa, in addition to hooking up that small track piece that came with my VLBB I will need some other equipment or pieces to program the black module with the locomotive specifics?

Nothing, just connect the command base to the computer and run the LSU.

PSU1980 posted:

Ugh. Keep the modules!!!

That ship has sailed, learn to adapt.

GRJ - OK, thanks.  This is very helpful.  Really appreciate the quick replies too.

Peter

BTW, spoke to a few people about the Orange module going away, their response was "no intention of getting rid of the module." So we will wait and see. 

John,

Can you explain how you connected the fast track module to Ross / Gargraves track. It looks great.

Kevin 

Check out this thread for modifying Gargraves. The others will be similar. 

Thank you Marty

Great directions, thanks again, off to purchase a sensor track.

does the sensor track work if the legacy engine does not have ir capability?

tangoman posted:

does the sensor track work if the legacy engine does not have ir capability?

 

No, but all of those have orange modules.

If you don't have the module or a sensor track , as John mentioned above, you can simply manually load it selecting the features via the knob and buttons on your legacy remote. It only takes about 15 or20 seconds.

Its no more difficult to manually load legacy info than it is to log on here and ask how.

RickO posted:

If you don't have the module or a sensor track , as John mentioned above, you can simply manually load it selecting the features via the knob and buttons on your legacy remote. It only takes about 15 or20 seconds.

Its no more difficult to manually load legacy info than it is to log on here and ask how.

Sure it is - especially if you don't know what or how to load.  

GRJ - any chance you're attending the Amherst Train show at the Big E fairgrounds this year?  I'll be there on the last day - Sunday - and it would be great to meet some forumites that have provided me help along this journey. 

Sad to say I don't get to that show.  I will be at York in the spring.

PJB posted:

RickO posted:

If you don't have the module or a sensor track , as John mentioned above, you can simply manually load it selecting the features via the knob and buttons on your legacy remote. It only takes about 15 or20 seconds.

Its no more difficult to manually load legacy info than it is to log on here and ask how.

Sure it is - especially if you don't know what or how to load.  

Once you give your hudson an i.d. # , its all multiple choice from there. See page 56-58 in the  legacy control system manual.

Enter a name of your choice and the road number

Select  STM, for steam, LEG for legacy control, and LRS for legacy railsounds