Lionel 282 Gantry Crane Part

Just looking for 282-10 lead me to 282-150, pinion and shaft.

Is this what you need?

https://www.legacystation.com/...XEAYYAiABEgLadPD_BwE

Thanks, but that's not the part.  I need the plastic worm gear for the crane.  Tom

I watched that auction site and bought a couple spare 282 cranes/parts at good prices. What I'm watching for now is a crane cabin base (with the gear teeth with which the crane is swiveled) because this is a part frequently damaged in the  shipment of these old cranes.

Something doesn't sound right. The 282R used the nylon gear, the 282-10 is a metal gear. Which are you looking for?

Chuck, the worm gear that came with the crane which broke was nylon.  The crane operated properly before it broke.  I am looking for the 282-10 for the non-R model.  Do you know where I can get one?  Thanks.  Tom

If you have a 1954 crane, both worm gears are metal.  The 282R used nylon gears. So if there is a nylon gear in your 1954 model, that's why it broke.

Any ideas where I might get one?

The metal one?

The 282-10 gear is available here.

Larry

I have five 282 {NON R} crane mechanisms, four of which have the blackened metal 282-10 worm gears as seen in this pic:

and one of which has the white nylon gears. One of the nylon gears has part of it's retention/locating flange broken. On close examination I see the gears and clutch are NOT interchangeable.

Whereas the white nylon gear has a protrusion which matches a notch in the clutch:

The blackened metal gear has the notch and the clutch has the protrusion:

These are both 282, NOT 282-R cranes so the clutch, shaft and worm gears need to be obtained as a matched set.

I learned something.

@Tom L how about some pics of your unit and broken parts?

If it has nylon gears...it's  282R.

@Chuck Sartor posted:

If it has nylon gears...it's  282R.

Look at my pic. That is assuredly a white nylon worm and it is assuredly a 282, NOT a 282R. A 282R would have the clutch-shaft return spring outboard of the bearing tower at the left end of the shaft.

No, what you have is a 282 than has been 'repaired' with 282R parts, or a incorrectly assembled 282R. Nylon gears were introduced in 1956. Notice the worm pitch is different between the two. The drive gears are also different between the two.

Chuck you are right but you are wrong also. There are three versions of the 282 crane. 1954 = 282-6 clutch shaft with 282-10 metal worm gear. Late 1955 = 282-123 clutch shaft with 282-121 plastic worm gear. 1956 282R= 282-131clutch shaft with 282-121 plastic worm gear. Check the parts list not the pictures if you don't believe me.

Just by way of beating the already dead horse .

A 282 motor is square to the clutch shaft so it's mating brass worm wheel must have the teeth angle-cut and a 282-R motor is angled to the clutch shaft such that It's mating brass worm wheel has it's teeth cut parallel to the shaft. Additionally, the 282-R clutch shaft is longer to accommodate the outboard catch return spring. Thus there is no way a 282-R clutch shaft would fit a 282 and engage the motor worm.

Another pic showing the short shaft with nylon gears and an angle-cut brass worm-wheel:

Which merely reinforces what Lionel Parts just said. Pictured is a late-1955 282 mechanism. Also, whereas either clutch-shaft with worm wheel and clutch-worm gears will work in a 282 NO mechanism parts will interchange between a 282 and a 282-R, just as stated in the Lionel service manual.

Well to beat the horse even more, To add even more mystery to the question. Apparently John you are correct, there is a 'third' hybrid clutch shaft assembly listed in the 1960 update to the 282 version. The number is 282-131. Now if you look on the list, the mating worm gear is the metal 282-10 with the beveled interlocks. So the clutch must also be beveled. Now an interesting note is I called Dennis Waldron this morning to ask what he thought. He said in his collection of factory addendum from Lionel back in the day, specifically noted to substitute 282-131 clutch shaft assembly with 282-123 assembly. ?.

I guess we can figure it out if you want to take you crane a bit further apart. Remove the clutch shaft out of the solenoid coil. If the end of the shaft is larger than the rest, like it has plunger on it, this is the later shaft as the solenoid core is larger in the R version.