Lionel BLUETOOTH PRR 4-4-2 SMOKE FLUID FOR WHISTLE

I would make that assumption to load smoke into the whistle hole. I have a Hudson with this feature.

The main stack may well have a "dual" smoke unit that you cannot see.

One half of the smoke unit is for stack and the other for whistle.

Two in one.  Fill only from stack and the fluid will reach both reservoirs

Soo Line and RickO,

I removed the boiler, there is no tube running from the stack to the whistle reservoir. So I don't see how filling only the stack will get fluid to the whistle. There is a sperate fan and fluid reservoir right under the whistle.

I wonder if Lionel made a revision to the manual and/or to the design of this feature.

RAY

@Soo Line posted:

The main stack may well have a "dual" smoke unit that you cannot see.

One half of the smoke unit is for stack and the other for whistle.

Two in one.  Fill only from stack and the fluid will reach both reservoirs

that won't work here.

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...LOCO-ONLY-6804943001

Notice 2 completely separate smoke units.

Makes me think the whistle is a cap that might be removed to fill?

Good information Vernon provided.

I would have assumed it was one smoke unit with fluid only going into the stack.

I thought Lionel did away with a seperate smoke unit for whistle steam in the newer bluetooth legacy steamers that are of small to medium size.

Brad

Looks like Vernon is right...appears that there are two smoke units indicating two separate fill zones.

I agree with Brad....thought Lionel went to the "smoke tube to the whistle" approach on smaller steamers.  I guess not.

My new 10 Wheeler has the smoke tube running from the stack unit to the whistle near the rear of the boiler.  I only fill this from the stack for both stack and whistle.

@Ray of sunshine posted:

Soo Line and RickO,

I removed the boiler, there is no tube running from the stack to the whistle reservoir. So I don't see how filling only the stack will get fluid to the whistle. There is a sperate fan and fluid reservoir right under the whistle.

I wonder if Lionel made a revision to the manual and/or to the design of this feature.

RAY

Thats why I deleted my post.

It appears to be  a "copy and paste error, the do not add fluid to the cylinder steam holes , belongs in regard to the s3 or VL Gs locos

This engine does not have cylinder steam. At the same time they left out the whistle fill instructions.

Thanks to all who jumped in to help. I wonder, though, why the instruction manual was never corrected. Guess they over looked this.

RAY

Ray, I don’t think a corrected manual would ever get out to everyone that purchased the engine. That is why I promote this forum to anybody that I am talking to when talking trains. This is how the info gets out there.

@B rad posted:

I thought Lionel did away with a seperate smoke unit for whistle steam in the newer bluetooth legacy steamers that are of small to medium size.

It depends on where the whistle is on the boiler.  If it's a long ways from the stack, it's pretty hard to use the dual smoke unit.  Also, the dual smoke unit is pretty wide, and it doesn't fit in many smaller boilers.

@Ray of sunshine posted:

Thanks to all who jumped in to help. I wonder, though, why the instruction manual was never corrected. Guess they over looked this.

RAY

They can be terrible with their manuals sometimes. Copy and paste from numerous models. If it weren't for you noticing the smoke unit under the whistle I would have questioned the parts manual being correct.

Gunrunnerjohn brings up a great point about the boiler size being able to fit a duel unit. I figured if my Camelback had a duel one they all could but the Camelback boiler is actually pretty wide for the size of the locomotive.

Brad

@B rad posted:

Gunrunnerjohn brings up a great point about the boiler size being able to fit a duel unit. I figured if my Camelback had a duel one they all could but the Camelback boiler is actually pretty wide for the size of the locomotive.

Actually, if you hold the dual smoke unit up to the Camelback, it's way to big to actually fit inside the boiler.

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

Actually, if you hold the dual smoke unit up to the Camelback, it's way to big to actually fit inside the boiler.

With my Camelback I only add fluid to the stack for both stack and whistle steam so is the smoke unit in the center cab area? I've never had it open to see. It's from the last offering from the 2021 catalog.

Brad

They must have a smaller dual smoke unit if they're putting it in a scale Camelback boiler.  Remember, you also have to fit the electronics in there!