There is a new CAB3 update available for IPhone
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@Alabama Joe posted:There is a new CAB3 update available for IPhone
These are the fixes we have received in the last update.
fyi…My update reads 1.1.46-156
My android CAB3 app updated to 1.1.46-156. Then I found a bug. Legacy Powermaster using the ENG address. Every time I move the throttle up, track power goes to 0 then back up to where I set it. Still does it after the Base3 1.28 update. Not good for conventional engines. Especially with the E unit engaged. I have a volt meter on the track and can watch it happen. I turned it in. I guess I am still waiting for the next update for the CAB3 to work.
@VHubbard posted:My android CAB3 app updated to 1.1.46-156. Then I found a bug. Legacy Powermaster using the ENG address. Every time I move the throttle up, track power goes to 0 then back up to where I set it. Still does it after the Base3 1.28 update. Not good for conventional engines. Especially with the E unit engaged. I have a volt meter on the track and can watch it happen. I turned it in. I guess I am still waiting for the next update for the CAB3 to work.
I posted my issues with this direction button / throttle position bug in detail and Dave acknowledged. The other critical fix for conventional and TMCC Pullmor motored engines is to have the ability to TURN OFF momentum in CAB mode. I find it impossible to run postwar and modern AC motored engines with the momentum lag, even in low momentum. I only want one thing - For the CAB-3 app to be able to do what my CAB-1L and CAB-2 remotes can do.
It's been a long time, too long since they updated the CAB 3. There are a lot of issues. Among them controlling the power output of the ZW-C and ZW-L through the TR control. The problem with the Powermasters is probably related. I think by now you probably have to conclude it can't be fixed. I think Lionel needs to go for a full featured CAB 4 handheld with bluetooth, WIFI and RF and 4 digit addressing. I think WIFI should begin to show up in locomotives as well for better addressing and 2-way communication.
Dave 69,
I have no problems with signals coming out of the Base3, good range. And we'll see about the ZW-C and ZW-L control, they said they were making progress and would release the update when it was ready. we've waited this long, might as well wait a bit longer.
The last time I reported issues in early March they replied back and said they would have an update by the end of March. They didn't say what year.
@Dave 69 GTEL posted:I think Lionel needs to go for a full featured CAB 4 handheld with bluetooth, WIFI and RF and 4 digit addressing.
David,
Why would you possibly ask for a Cab 4 when the Cab 3/Base 3 system isn't quite ready for prime time yet? Since they've proven they couldn't get the bugs out of the 3 series in a timely fashion, why would a 4 series be any better out of the chute?
The new one will also come with its own slow-to-be-resolved problems.
Impatient? Or glutton for punishment? Or both?
Mike
@BobRichardsonTexas posted:The last time I reported issues in early March they replied back and said they would have an update by the end of March. They didn't say what year.
LOL, they didn't say what year part got me
@Dave 69 GTEL posted:I think by now you probably have to conclude it can't be fixed.
@Dave 69 GTEL posted:It's been a long time, too long since they updated the CAB 3. There are a lot of issues. Among them controlling the power output of the ZW-C and ZW-L through the TR control. The problem with the Powermasters is probably related. I think by now you probably have to conclude it can't be fixed. I think Lionel needs to go for a full featured CAB 4 handheld with bluetooth, WIFI and RF and 4 digit addressing. I think WIFI should begin to show up in locomotives as well for better addressing and 2-way communication.
Just my 2 cents, but I'm not sure it would be a great idea to add WiFi capability to engines. Home networks, in general, are limited to around 250 devices. This may sound like a lot, but when you consider the number of devices we all have in our homes (cell phones, iPads, smart watches, thermostats, Sonos speakers, smart TVs, etc.), you can hit that number faster than you think. Also, WiFi isn't really a point-to-point protocol, like BlueTooth and other transmission protocols. This means that you need something to "receive" the wifi broadcast from your control device and then transmit it to your engine. Granted, the lag is small, but point-to-point doesn't have that issue.
The world of home networking and transmission protocols changes by the hour. My concerns about WiFi could be gone by the time I hit the "post" button 
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-- Dave
@cdswindell posted:Just my 2 cents, but I'm not sure it would be a great idea to add WiFi capability to engines. Home networks, in general, are limited to around 250 devices. This may sound like a lot, but when you consider the number of devices we all have in our homes (cell phones, iPads, smart watches, thermostats, Sonos speakers, smart TVs, etc.), you can hit that number faster than you think. Also, WiFi isn't really a point-to-point protocol, like BlueTooth and other transmission protocols. This means that you need something to "receive" the wifi broadcast from your control device and then transmit it to your engine. Granted, the lag is small, but point-to-point doesn't have that issue.
The world of home networking and transmission protocols changes by the hour. My concerns about WiFi could be gone by the time I hit the "post" button
-- Dave
I see your point. I was just trying to think of a way that Lionel could expand its system to be more like the MTH WTIU without the more complicated wiring. There are only so many addresses in a home network. Maybe oneday that will be expanded.
@cdswindell posted:Also, WiFi isn't really a point-to-point protocol, like BlueTooth and other transmission protocols. This means that you need something to "receive" the wifi broadcast from your control device and then transmit it to your engine. Granted, the lag is small, but point-to-point doesn't have that issue.
I don't think this is a significant issue. I have both my MTH and Lionel WiFi boxes connected to my home router, and any connection to them goes through the router. I don't see any measurable lag when running using either of the WiFi boxes from a smart device.
@Dave 69 GTEL posted:It's been a long time, too long since they updated the CAB 3. There are a lot of issues. Among them controlling the power output of the ZW-C and ZW-L through the TR control. The problem with the Powermasters is probably related. I think by now you probably have to conclude it can't be fixed. I think Lionel needs to go for a full featured CAB 4 handheld with bluetooth, WIFI and RF and 4 digit addressing. I think WIFI should begin to show up in locomotives as well for better addressing and 2-way communication.
Dave ........It has been a Long Time. It was first reported to LIONEL/Dave back in LATE 2024.
BUT, there is a way to adjust the Power to your TRACK using the CAB3/TR. Look at my reply to a POST that was made on 12/4/24. I put all my Tracks into the BASE3 as Tracks. Then I bring up TRACK 1 to #31 on the CAB3, ( On my ZWl , the Voltmeter will show as 18volts ), by rotating the Power Dial on my CAB3, or the POWER CONTROL LEVER. Its not the best way, but it WORKS!!!. That way you don't have to use "ENG" to program your ZWL.
FREDSTRAINS
@Fredstrains posted:Dave ........It has been a Long Time. It was first reported to LIONEL/Dave back in LATE 2024.
BUT, there is a way to adjust the Power to your TRACK using the CAB3/TR. Look at my reply to a POST that was made on 12/4/24. I put all my Tracks into the BASE3 as Tracks. Then I bring up TRACK 1 to #31 on the CAB3, ( On my ZWl , the Voltmeter will show as 18volts ), by rotating the Power Dial on my CAB3, or the POWER CONTROL LEVER. Its not the best way, but it WORKS!!!. That way you don't have to use "ENG" to program your ZWL.
FREDSTRAINS
Very clever workaround.
