Buy one Big Boy and just put the other $3,000 in a total stock market ETF 📈 if we’re investing. 😛
@Bob posted:Only if you leave it sealed in the box, never opened. Here's a thought. Buy 3 of them: one to run, one to display, and one to sell in the future for what you paid for all 3. Think of it, a pair of free Big Boys!
What could go wrong?
That’s actually not totally crazy…LOL. Particularly when I win the lottery for #4019 and get that third one for free. Or at least that’s what I’m going to tell myself.
I also keep telling myself I’m being patriotic by supporting an historic piece of Americana (o gauge railroading generally) and small businesses. Everything from Lionel itself to the train stores I deal with are “small” to very small and worthy of supporting.
@Alec_6460 posted:That’s actually not totally crazy…LOL. Particularly when I win the lottery for #4019 and get that third one for free. Or at least that’s what I’m going to tell myself.
You just keep telling yourself that, but I'll be the one winning the bigboy...😉
I preordered the Mickey hand car. I've contemplated buying the original or Pride Lines version over they years. It's an anniversary issue and the price was right. I like the Great Locomotive Chase set since I don't have any American style engines and the price is in the affordable range. However, I'm less interested if the drive, sound and control system are Thomas like. Higher quality General sets are probably available on the bay for similar money although many are not bidirectional and without command ? Also, the set is in stores now which means I can't preorder and pay later in time for 2023 under the tree.
Two questions, first is did someone post the link to Ryan and Dave going over the catalog on here?
Second question, when is the catalog preorder cut off date?
@Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:Two questions, first is did someone post the link to Ryan and Dave going over the catalog on here?
Second question, when is the catalog preorder cut off date?
Link: https://youtu.be/m6SH1Edp9LU
Charles Ro is taking pre-orders until February 28th.
Other dealers may vary a bit. Ro tends to takes orders up to a week later than others.
Thanks Rick. I'll catch the video later after some football.
I ordered from Trainworld:
UP Grain Door Boxcar 2326710, and
UP Vision CA-1 Caboose 2326440
I am always looking for an unusual new freight car. I have a PA "talking" caboose that I bought in 2002. Finally a new version of a "talking" caboose. It was a long wait to get another, LOL!
Got my catalog in the mail, going through it again in detail I think I'll be getting a vision caboose, vision refers or sheep cars and the mickey handcart.
Charles Ro has the former MTH 2-8-0s for like $280... Lionel wins, I'm pulling the trigger on the Western Maryland one. I'm still debating the "Hot Chocolate" hot metal carriers though.
Anyone want to add an anti-Christ car to their layout? There's nothing like a good ol' Exorcist car, isn't there, complete with the girl floating back and forth above the train car as it ****s your layout for eternity? I joked with my wife about adding this and she said she would burn my layout to the ground if I did! 
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@IRON HORSE posted:Anyone want to add an anti-Christ car to their layout? There's nothing like a good ol' Exorcist car, isn't there, complete with the girl floating back and forth above the train car as it ****s your layout for eternity?
I believe that's Lionel throwing as much **** at the wall as they can, and seeing what sticks.
@IRON HORSE posted:Anyone want to add an anti-Christ car to their layout? There's nothing like a good ol' Exorcist car, isn't there, complete with the girl floating back and forth above the train car as it ****s your layout for eternity? I joked with my wife about adding this and she said she would burn my layout to the ground if I did!
Cannot wait, already have creative plans for "kit bashing" these cars. I will initially order three with my LHS.
I really want the lionchief fast fright tier 4 Halloween set hope they change the motors this time and I'm still waiting on the graffiti set from last year. I really wish i could get both sets plus the add on cars but that looks to be 1300 dollars worth of products that I can't afford and it makes me sad
Wow, that’s a great question, and after a bit of scanning through this nice new catalog, I’m seeing some beautiful VisionLine Cabooses, Union Pacific style to go behind the Big Boy locomotives. Now, I’m seeing an Area 51 Diner, so, I’m wondering if this is related to the MTH Mel’s Diner? Possibility that Lionel bought this accessory build. I’m trying to narrow down my choices for a good legacy steamer, just need to do more investigating. This is a big catalog. Happy Railroading Everyone
@IRON HORSE posted:Anyone want to add an anti-Christ car to their layout? There's nothing like a good ol' Exorcist car, isn't there, complete with the girl floating back and forth above the train car as it ****s your layout for eternity? I joked with my wife about adding this and she said she would burn my layout to the ground if I did!
God bless your wife.
She probably also knows that the devil is in the details, there might be quality control problems, and you would have to go through he** to get them fixed.
Honestly I found the catalog well rounded. Pricing is what it is I just have to see what I’m willing to part with.
The new big boy has me interested I have the original VL but something different would be cool and new features are always a plus. #4019 has my eye. But the pricing for the LCCA while not drastically different than some dealer pricing was actually cheaper.
I’m also really interested in the new VL caboose, sounds like a fun item and I do enjoy the sound cars.
while I’d love an excuse to pickup more VL reefers at the moment I’m not convinced I need them
also excited to see them continue the UP excursion cars so I’ll probably pick up the new two pack.
the last thing while I really don’t want to spend more is I’d really like to see a dealer do BSA 2010 as a custom run. I don’t know if licensing is an issue but either way I’d would support it if it happened.
I decided to add onto my pre-order. I added the Glow in the Dark Barrels and the light up Christmas tree car. I got the one offered prior and really liked it. Two would look nice for the next Holiday Season. So, I have went from never doing a pre-order to having 4 items now. Say what you will about this catalog but they got me to buy a few things.
I'm trying to figure out what VL Big Boy I'm ordering either one of the 4014's or 4019 or 4024 and then the passenger cars and the VL caboose
If I didn’t already have so many passenger cars of various gauges and eras, I would pull the trigger on the seven (7) North Pole Central passenger cars. These look kind of cool. 😎
I ordered the 2329170 hot cocoa caboose with deck and the 2326660 Christmas bobber caboose.
Custom runs have become my favorite part of new catalog releases. So, I usually can’t answer the question of this thread until they’re announced. Has anyone announced any yet? It seems to be quiet on the custom front this time around. I suppose it’s still early, but it seems like we’d normally have heard at least the first ones by now.
I finally got the UP passenger set. My first passenger set.
@Rider Sandman posted:Custom runs have become my favorite part of new catalog releases. So, I usually can’t answer the question of this thread until they’re announced. Has anyone announced any yet? It seems to be quiet on the custom front this time around. I suppose it’s still early, but it seems like we’d normally have heard at least the first ones by now.
Legacy Station is doing an Eric's Trains SW9 switcher.
@vash44 posted:Legacy Station is doing an Eric's Trains SW9 switcher.
I believe it is an NW2 they are doing for Erics Trains? Maybe not, it's changed a couple times.
Brad
There’s a lot of goodies in this book. My list isn’t firm but what I like is the Big Boy set, the iron hippo set, & the Dreyfuss Hudson with matching cars. Also the Atlantic City camelback & Penn Central GP20’s. I’m also waiting to see what custom runs the muffin man announces.
@ArtsModelTrains posted:I went through it a few times fast and nothing grabbed me as a must have, so right now I'm a little bummed, not the catalog I was anticipating. I thought there would be more new variety in Legacy or LC2.0 steam but a lot of the same stuff from the last few years.
I guess I'll be on Trainz.com more this year filling out my collection.
Still on the hunt for the MTH Railking 30-1741-1 Breast Cancer Commodore Hudson
Agreed. Very disappointed in the lack of LC+2.0 stuff, in fact there's less than last year from what I see. I came into O Gauge too late and cannot get any type of system to run Legacy (unless I want to pay a billion dollars on EvilBay for one) so I am stuck with LC or conventional products for the foreseeable future. And it seems like this supposed new Base 3 is just never going to get released, they just keep pushing it back and back and back...
@James Brown posted:Agreed. Very disappointed in the lack of LC+2.0 stuff, in fact there's less than last year from what I see. I came into O Gauge too late and cannot get any type of system to run Legacy (unless I want to pay a billion dollars on EvilBay for one) so I am stuck with LC or conventional products for the foreseeable future.
I agree. I am very lucky I got into the hobby back in around 2017 and picked up some Lionchief plus items for dirt cheap.
Love the Lionchief plus line and hate it is gone. The 2.0 line is great but not much better than the plus in my opinion.
Both having fan driven smoke was what my attraction to it was. They were close to the MTH Railking line of locomotives.
The 2.0 line has gotten very expensive lately so I wonder if the demand at that cost has shifted to just going with Legacy at this point. I hope they are not phasing the 2.0 line out and just sticking with plain Lionchief for the cheaper models.
Maybe the mid year catologs will start to have more Lionchief Plus 2.0 items.
Brad
Easy catalog for me - the single unit New Haven RDC. Very excited to have a semi-scale RDC that is TMCC capable.
~Chris
@shorling posted:I preordered the Mickey hand car. I've contemplated buying the original or Pride Lines version over they years.
The item's nameplate in the illustration shows "Made In U.S. Of America." I wonder if the actual product will be made stateside or overseas.
@Bob Paris posted:The item's nameplate in the illustration shows "Made In U.S. Of America." I wonder if the actual product will be made stateside or overseas.
I saw that and wondered the same. I imagine if they were making it in the US that would've been well advertised and it will just be a part of the decoration to retain accuracy to the original.
I'm going with 4014 oil burner version and then the 4024 Greyhound with yellow stripes, then all the passenger cars and the visionline UP yellow caboose. And the Mickey and Minnie handcar.
I’m thinking about getting the Vision PRR N-8 cabin car. I like the Westmoreland GLA hopper two car set too. No engines for me. The Hippo is too big to run on my layout and expensive for me. I should have preordered the Mikado from the last catalog. Luckily the time for me to make a decision is a few weeks away.
Y’all I am strongly considering the North Pole Central E8 set. It’s not something I usually get, but…
1) it’s ridiculously beautiful
2) the chances of it being made again are remote
addendum: ordered!
They had better spell “Yuletide” correctly. In the catalog it is misspelled “Yueltide”
This catalog will be hard not to order from.
pre-orders for the Lionel 2023 catalog.
2331402 NYC DREYFUSS # 5452
2331401 NYC DREYFUSS # 5449
2327310 20TH CENTURY LIMITED 4pac.
2327330 20TH CENTURY LIMITED SS DINER 2pac.
2327320 20TH CENTURY LIMITED 2pac.
2326450 UP VISION CABOOSE
2335190 MICKEY&MINNIE MOUSE HANDCAR
2328270 CHRISTMAS TREE FLATCAR
And I hope not to talk myself into anything else lol.
@paigetrain posted:i keep looking at that halloween mikado like i need it
1 i want a steam engine and 2 i want my layout to be haunted like the groovy spooky scooby doo sort of way
the problem its 700 bucks and my godparents who know little to nothing about this hobby differences in engines, power systems etc are gonna see that price and imediatly hassle me about why i want it and give this big long speech about it being too much money
so i don't even know why i bother anymore
Hi Cody, don't let the high cost of something you want sour your passion. I'm in my sixties and still "want" some of those trains in the latest catalog but the cost can't be justified. I
I like the haunted idea for your layout - you can do a good amount of kitbashing to much less expensive engines and rolling stock to get what you want for your empire.
Remember, with few exceptions these items will be available and less expensive in a couple of years.
In the meantime - enjoy what you are building. I may splurge and get that "groovy Trolley" for my STBBL (Soon to be built layout).
Paul
@N'awlins posted:Y’all I am strongly considering the North Pole Central E8 set. It’s not something I usually get, but…
1) it’s ridiculously beautiful
2) the chances of it being made again are remote
addendum: ordered!
They had better spell “Yuletide” correctly. In the catalog it is misspelled “Yueltide”
I have not bought any Lionel since 2017 because of an issue I had with a loco and the way it was handled. But...........I am on the fence about this set. I think that is drop dead gorgeous.
I was thinking about getting a VL big boy 4014 with the oil tender. Now I believe this one is supposed to have a gloss finish for the engine and tender .
Is there anyone here that got the gloss version from the last run in 2019, do you like how it turned out and do you have any pictures in person of it, any regrets???
I was at Nicholas Smith over the weekend and saw the Norfolk and western with the gloss finish and didn't really care for it. It's not a big deal if I get it or not. I already have a VL big boy from 2015, 4012 which is on display at Steamtown.
Any help I would appreciate it.
On 4014, the 2019 release had the floor plate done like in the locomotive. Any idea if this release will have that?
