Ordered I1 with short tender and Amtrak E units
@RamblerDon posted:I went ahead and ordered the Mickey Mouse handcar from Charles Ro. It was the only thing I really wanted bad enough and I didn't want miss out on it. Though Lionel claiming limited production is probably just to induce some Fear Of Missing Out.
Ditto. I ordered a few from Ro last night. Going to give them as gifts to some train friends that I know won't get them and will get a kick out of them. 
Small item in the grand scheme of three thousand dollar locos, but a pretty cool offering from Lionel/Disney.
Hey rplst8 - Thank you - I knew about the L1 / K4 shared boiler just wasn't sure if the I1 was in the mix 
I think so from the pics, but the Big Boy Super Set, that's a coal tender not oil, correct?
@third rail posted:It looks like Lionel took a step backwards with a certain Legacy steamer, namely the decapod. According to the catalog listing it comes with a WIRED tether. Interesting, after all these years of wireless drawbars on Legacy and TMCC equipped locomotives, Lionel goes reintroduced the unsightly wire. I wonder what the reason is.
Its an ex MTH Premier locomotive that they probably didn't have time to reengineer with the wireless tether. It should be interesting IF it's a wired tether, will it me the MTH PC board drawbar OR the old bunch of wires in a rubber sleeve. In the last catalog, the L1 was also ex MTH Premier so until one of these former Premier locomotives hits the streets/ shelves, its anyone guess if it will be wired or wireless.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Its an ex MTH Premier locomotive that they probably didn't have time to reengineer with the wireless tether. It should be interesting IF it's a wired tether, will it me the MTH PC board drawbar OR the old bunch of wires in a rubber sleeve. In the last catalog, the L1 was also ex MTH Premier so until one of these former Premier locomotives hits the streets/ shelves, its anyone guess if it will be wired or wireless.
The Legacy Santa Fe 2-10-4s from the 2022 big book were former MTH tooling. Those have been delivered and they had the wireless tether.
@third rail posted:It looks like Lionel took a step backwards with a certain Legacy steamer, namely the decapod. According to the catalog listing it comes with a WIRED tether. Interesting, after all these years of wireless drawbars on Legacy and TMCC equipped locomotives, Lionel goes reintroduced the unsightly wire. I wonder what the reason is.
It's because the boiler on the Russian Decapod is too small to fit the electronics into, so they are all going in the tender. Hence the reason for a wired tether.
@johnstrains posted:Ditto. I ordered a few from Ro last night. Going to give them as gifts to some train friends that I know won't get them and will get a kick out of them.
Small item in the grand scheme of three thousand dollar locos, but a pretty cool offering from Lionel/Disney.
I know everyone really wanted that Polar Express Big Boy but I think the Mickey Mouse Handcar is going to be the sleeper hit of this catalog.
Lehigh New England camelback will be the top priority. Nothing else at this point but who knows.
No Lehigh Valley Budd car... that would have been nice....
Nothing really caught my eye. Looking at the price increases, my wallet is breathing a sigh of relief.
Personally, I was really hoping for a Toy Story or Hot Wheels-themed Big Boy, but oh well, can't have everything I guess 
@breezinup posted:Your comment may be tongue-in-cheek, but the 0-31 is a misprint. Note the Santa Fe Fast Fruit Express set with that engine shows a minimum curve of 0-54.
Thanks for clarifying this. I thought the O31 was a misprint but appreciate the confirmation.
I will only be ordering a few things from this catalog:
PFE 3-car reefer set with railsounds
Area 51 Drive-in Diner (I didn't know that Mel had opened a new location in Nevada)
Santa's Workshop
I'm not a big steam guy. I only have a few. But, I did enter the contest to win the Big Boy.
So much product. So little for me. Probably the wind-up Disney Mickey Mouse handcar set. Nostalgia. Lots of goodies for folks today but Lionel has solidly moved away from this postwar guy. No complaints, though.
Lots
NYC Dreyfuss engine plus pass set. 2 sets Vision sheep stock cars. Jade green NYC E8s. USA Russian decapod, Atlantic city RR Camelback, All the trolleys and the Scale Christmas E 8s. You only live once!
@Lou1985 posted:It's because the boiler on the Russian Decapod is too small to fit the electronics into, so they are all going in the tender. Hence the reason for a wired tether.
Smaller than an S-gauge American Flyer USRA pacific?
If they can’t do it here I’m curious how the Strasburg Decapods will turn out.
I see there’s lots of excitement about this truly beautiful jam packed Lionel catalog, however I haven’t had time yet to really sit down and go slowly page by page, and have a Coca Cola to sip on, and simply Wish. So, I’m sure there’s a big steamer in the future. Great Question, great thread. Happy Railroading Everyone
DO I understand that those cool BUDD RDC UNITS will NOT operate onTMCC? Only command?
OK, order going in, they are cool
@superwarp1 posted:Well now that I can view the catalog. I can really say not a darn thing interest me. Guess that's a good thing as I'm still waiting for my B&A Berkshire which is way over due.
Whats the hold up? I am also waiting for the Berkshire. Going to get the B&M.
Are they going to make them?
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:. It should be interesting IF it's a wired tether, will it me the MTH PC board drawbar OR the old bunch of wires in a rubber sleeve. In the last catalog, the L1 was also ex MTH Premier so until one of these former Premier locomotives hits the streets/ shelves, its anyone guess if it will be wired or wireless.
Likely a 20 pin tether, with 20 wires and no sleeve. The same as the one on the Legacy 0-6-0's that were just delivered. A space issue.
I'm guessing the 0-6-0s were the test subject for this design.
I bought one not knowing it would have a tether. It runs well. The few times it didn't, a check that the tether was fully seated fixed it. Hopefully it lasts. The last time I saw so many wires was when the phone company opened the box on the corner.
@cswalter posted:Whats the hold up? I am also waiting for the Berkshire. Going to get the B&M.
Are they going to make them?
I am waiting on Mr Muffin's custom run berkshire. I emailed him late last year asking if he had an ETA and he told me Lionel was retooling that model of berkshire. I think the new ETA is around June this year or so, but don't quote me on that.
Seeing the Fezziwig Camelback and related cars made my day; this set shows that the artists at Lionel have an appreciation for not only classic literature, but also a benevolent character as good old Fezziwig, bless his heart 
- the altruistic businessman and antithesis of Ebenezer Scrooge 
Finances are tight this year, but I don't think I can pass this set up 
The Polar Express RDO set looks neat as does a lot of other Christmas-themed stuff. While I found the 21" scale cars that go along with the Santa Sleigh Bell E-8s strikingly beautiful, making them that long seems a strange choice; I surmise that collectors could be driving this trend of super-long scale cars, but they sure need some wide diameter track to not only look semi-realistic going around curves, but also to prevent overhang collisions 
It's great to see the PRR Hippos again; I have the PS2.0 version and they are very nice-looking and good-running models, with almost round boilers . I don't think MTH ever re-ran them again with PS3.0, so it's been a long time ~ 20 years +- since the Premier versions have been on the market (assumption that Lionel is using the Premier design). I wonder if the long-tendered version will have two fatboy speakers, do they still do this for larger tenders? I can state unequivocally that the long-tendered PS2.0 version (which only has one speaker) chuffing effects are awesome), ostensibly due to the large chamber which provides resonance of tremendous audio quality. I had great fun doubleheading them. I would think the same would be true for the Legacy version, and especially so if it had two speakers 
This might be a bit of a reach, but since the Lionel 2-8-0s are just rebranded former MTH tooling, do you think one could reshell a Lionel 2-8-0 with the older MTH shells? MTH had a few cool fantasy paintjobs (Santa Fe Valley Flyer/NYC Pacemaker, plus a few Christmas ones) and with proto 2/3 parts being possibly hard to get, it would be neat if one could swap the shell from the new engine to the older ones
I want an Oompa Loopa ! And I want it NOW !
@cswalter posted:Whats the hold up? I am also waiting for the Berkshire. Going to get the B&M.
Are they going to make them?
The tooling was somehow damaged, so I’m guessing new tooling. They will be made
The ATLANTIC CITY RAILROAD LEGACY CAMELBACK 4-6-0 intrigues me. Being on a stricter budget now, I'll probably pass. If it does get made, I feel it would be hard to find in the secondary market.
I'll bet everyone can't wait to get the Mickey Mouse hand car numbered and signed by the president.
Everything on page 23
Don't see anything that interest me, and not a lot I could afford anyway.
BURLINGTON NORTHERN center beam flat cars
Andrew
@superwarp1 posted:The tooling was somehow damaged, so I’m guessing new tooling. They will be made
Okay, thanks. The old K-line tooling? Wonder if we will see some changes.
Looking forward to the release. It will be worth the wait for the whistle steam on these.
After much thought, narrowed it down to the Interstate hoppers with the "Coal Goes to War" stamp. At 8" long they are perfect for an O Gauge guy, plus I like obscure southeastern roadnames. I look forward to switching them with my LC warbonds SR 0-8-0.
Started by saying I wasn’t sure I was going to get a VL Big Boy. Now after careful consideration I’m getting a black and a greyhound. And I don’t even “model” the UP on my layout. WTF is wrong with me…LOL
Oh well…it’s an investment right. They will be worth $4K plus on the bay in 7-10 years…
Lionel has finally put the padlock on my wallet!
The one thing I would have bought was the annual Christmas Box car. But this year it's downright ugly in my opinion.
I also find the Lionchief 0-6-0t tank engines interesting.
I currently only have DCS. I presume I could control this with the universal remote, and Legacy engines also?
'I currently only have DCS. I presume I could control this with the universal remote, and Legacy engines also?"
Yes. Or the free app on a phone or tablet. If it says Bluetooth on the box/catalog description.
@Alec_6460 posted:Started by saying I wasn’t sure I was going to get a VL Big Boy. Now after careful consideration I’m getting a black and a greyhound. And I don’t even “model” the UP on my layout. WTF is wrong with me…LOL
Oh well…it’s an investment right. They will be worth $4K plus on the bay in 7-10 years…
Only if you leave it sealed in the box, never opened. Here's a thought. Buy 3 of them: one to run, one to display, and one to sell in the future for what you paid for all 3. Think of it, a pair of free Big Boys!
What could go wrong? 
