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Dennis sold to Bob Stevenson, and Bob was getting ready to do a test shot in brass.  When Mr. Hemmings said "I got this" we stopped.  This is not a good place for two different folks doing molds at the same time.

You can follow all that in the first couple pages of this thread.

We also proposed converting to Wolfer trucks, which are extremely accurate, but I wasn't willing to invest a grand in a crumbled Lionel model to see how to do it.  I believe photos of the Wolfer truck are on page 1.  Bob Stevenson has those molds ready to go.

I already have five bronze GG1s - I was going to help here because I like GG1s.

@bob2 posted:

Dennis sold to Bob Stevenson, and Bob was getting ready to do a test shot in brass.  When Mr. Hemmings said "I got this" we stopped.  This is not a good place for two different folks doing molds at the same time.

You can follow all that in the first couple pages of this thread.

We also proposed converting to Wolfer trucks, which are extremely accurate, but I wasn't willing to invest a grand in a crumbled Lionel model to see how to do it.  I believe photos of the Wolfer truck are on page 1.  Bob Stevenson has those molds ready to go.

I already have five bronze GG1s - I was going to help here because I like GG1s.

If you really have to have them in metal castings, I don't see the problem with someone doing them.  The metal casting was actually attempted, but the mold shrinkage was enough that the casting came out close to 1/4" too short.  Needless to say, it didn't work, but it was very nice looking.

I just bolted one of the plastic sideframes to my GG1 as a test and moved the pilot over, it didn't have any problems running, and looked just like the original.  It was also a good chance to look even closer at my sideframes to make sure they're still intact.

To answer a few questions:

The material used is a "ureathane plastic', It is a very tough material.

There is .01" shrinkage per inch of mold. (negligible).

The 6:32 screw holes will be 'tapped'.

You will re-use your original Lionel screws.

The castings are done in 'black' color.

We will be listing on our web site most likely by this weekend. Orders will be sold and shipped as received. I do not want to offend or cut short anybody on order placement, as I think this is the fairest way to accept orders.   Harry 

 

@Bryan posted:

I can’t wait to get ahold of these.  Will this be on the Henning store web site?  I’ll be getting 2 at least maybe 4.  Just waiting to know when and where to send the money!   Y’all are awesome for everything you are doing in the hobby thank you.

Looks like they already are on the site.

Henning's Trains - GG1055 Powered Truck Side Frame for Lionel GG1

John beat me to it by a minute.  LOL!

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@bmoran4 posted:
@MartyE posted:

Looks like they already are on the site.

Henning's Trains - GG1055 Powered Truck Side Frame for Lionel GG1

John beat me to it by a minute.  LOL!

@DaveGG posted:

Bryan, 

Yes, there on the Henning website. 

 

Not sure if @Bryan got the message or not 

NOTE: We are temporarily putting a hold on taking orders until we get caught up with the current orders. Check back soon for ordering. (should be within the next two weeks)
Production is slow on these, we make one at a time, but we will ship them in the order that we receive orders. Can be anywhere from a week to several weeks. We will start shipping the first couple orders Monday. We appreciate everyone's patience. 

GG1055 Powered Truck Side Frame for Lionel GG1

A pair of reproduction powered truck side frames for the Lionel TMCC Scale GG1 to replace the original metal side frames that has unfortunately often come to zinc pest (deteriorated).

Urethane plastic (72 Shore D Hardness)

Made to fit Lionel:

  • 6-18354  Pennsylvania TMCC Scale GG1 – Tuscan Solid Stripe #4916
  • 6-18355  Pennsylvania TMCC Scale GG1 – Green 5 Stripe #4876
  • 6-18356  Penn Central TMCC Scale GG1 – Green 5 Stripe #4901
  • 6-18371  Pennsylvania TMCC Scale GG1 – Tuscan 5 Stripe #4912
  • 6-18372  Pennsylvania TMCC Scale GG1 – Green Solid Stripe #4925
  • 6-18374  Pennsylvania TMCC Scale GG1 – Silver #4866

My replacement pair of plastic frames have arrived today from Henning's Trains!  My thanks to them for the fast filling and shipping of my order!

I am impressed with the detail that is molded into the frames.  Overall, they are a little more pliable than I had expected.

I will dig out my silver JLC GG1 in a little bit, and upload a few pics of its current zinc rot frames.

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Remember, the only significant load on these is right at the circled point, that's where the pilot truck attaches and of course, the coupler for the rest of the train is attached to the pilot truck.  The sides that seem pliable are strictly cosmetic as were the originals.  Although my GG1 didn't have any sideframe issues, I did take one of these and install it for a test.  It dropped right in and functioned just like the original.  The nice thing is, you don't have to even take the shell off, you can do this all from the outside.

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Here are pics of my scale GG1, ending with some pics showing the plastic frames for comparison. 

One of the replacements does have some light speckling to its finish.  I am debating on hitting the replacement pair with a light coat of flat black spray paint.  I'm just not sure if the paint will have an adverse effect on the pliable plastic sides.

 

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Thank you for all your in-put so far. We have shipped 13 sets as of today.  My 'science worker' took all the mold making, production items home so he could continue casting during the week, while his wife was visiting her 'momma'. We will be accepting more orders most likely by next weekend. Bill has made up an additional flyer on converting our units. I will get him to add to our site for down loading.  Thank you again, please be safe.   Harry 

So, I hit both replacement frames with a light coat of flat black paint:

After 30 minutes of drying time in my wife's empty outdoor planter, they looked pretty good:

Here's the kitchen table work area:

I accidentally snapped the bend on both little brass stanchions to get the pipe off the original front frame, so I used super glue to hold them in place on the replacement:

 

I only replaced the front frame (left truck in the next 2 pics), as the back frame is still holding its overall shape fairly well (I greased all of the gears, too):

I think semi-gloss black might have been a better paint color choice instead of flat black, but from a few feet away it isn't very noticeable:

I will get some run time on my PRR 4866 tomorrow to see how it fares.  Stay tuned.

Also, I can't thank Henning's Trains enough for tackling this project!

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