Lionel Legacy Y6b is in!

Winston:

What is the Legacy "SW" you refer to? 

Thanks!

Ben

Oh Sorry... Work acronyms creeping into everyday conversation. SW is short for Software. The second pic you posted about doghouse lights referenced being able to turn on and off with new Legacy system software. Nobody references a new SW drop without it being past alpha and beta test which means we should see something soon. Then again this is Lionel and how long did the iCab app take... Hummm.

I ordered mine from Nassau Hobby,havnt heard a thing.

Mikey

After seeing the awesome photos and videos by awesome forum members, I think Lionel really got it right. It looks beautiful, the sounds are bulls eyes, and of course the extra chuff feature and whistle steam.

Also, how does that 3rd Rail water tender look with the Y6b? It really is pretty, I might have to pull the trigger on one.

As far as the Legacy vs TMCC. N&W 1218 is right. With a water tender there is nothing accept lash ups which really is pointless and cumbersome when talking about steam accept for double heading. I have both black UP water tenders in TMCC and legacy. I honestly could not tell you which is which. One is behind my VL BB and the other is behind a VL Challenger. Both are programed in to Cab2 separately and the features rarely used, but they look great!

Thanks Winston!   I haven't seen the aux tender yet with the engine... The aux tender is in Michigan and I am in Chicago until this weekend.  I will set them all up together and snap a couple photos when all are in the same place.

Ben 

I'd call them and check on your pre-order.  They were promoting their Y6b's in stock for the tail end of their Mayhem sale last month, and their website shows only one roadnumber each (2171, 2175, and 2195) in stock.

David

Does the sound system stop over switches like on the Cab Forward? The Legacy AC-12 instructions tell you to install a battery because the sound system was redesigned for some reason to stop over power interruptions. Does the Y6b do the same?

Recall a post on here saying the Big Boys had their software redone like TMCC locos, where the sounds just starts up again when there is power. Do not want to have to install a battery in a $2,000 engine with the possibility of leakage damage.

This has been the same with almost all Lionel engines today, as it has been for years. The battery is mostly for people who operate in conventional mode or want to guarantee that the sound system doesn't drop out. Almost all Lionel Legacy engines still use this technique. My SD40-2's and Southern Crescent have this, though not my Vision 700E Hudson.

WOW!!  

That is one beautiful locomotive! If I hadn't gone on such a recent spree this would be a hard one to pass up.

As Brian (PTC) has already mentioned this is a great freight loco ... and... I have filled my freight needs for now and I am focusing on passenger service for the newly planned layout.

 These are the excuses that I have been telling myself and so far - so good!

But I haven't seen or heard one in person yet..no promises..

Just adding fuel to the fire....

I've got a beautiful Railking Imperial Y6B and pull passenger trains with it....just say it is a NS excursion!

Yes, the 2156 is currently in Roanoke.

The new Lionel is definitely Purdy! Sure looks a lot like my JLC 2200.

More Hooters please!   Can't get enough N&W sound !

Many friends just have loops and when they bring Legacy Steam over the sound system drops out and stops over large switches which is a HUGE distraction, especially where the sound on TMCC steam engines may drop out but immediately returns upon the pickups getting power again.

Are you saying the new Legacy diesels have this flaw as well? Almost picked up a new KCS SD70 this Saturday with some of the $ we saved not getting an AC-12 with the tires on the inaccessible front driver. (Changed tires for a friend, hope to never again) If a battery to prevent the sound dropping out is now required in all Legacy diesels too, we will probably look at a new MTH piece instead.

I have the new Cab Forward and have no issues. Now I am running on a temp layout because I moved 6 months ago and will be putting up a much bigger layout in the new house. So the temp layout is all Lionel fastrack with 6 072 switches in one spot they are back to back. No issues. The old layout was Atlas O with Ross switches, 10 of them if I recall correctly. The cab forward has never run on the old layout but I really only have legacy big steam and no issues. I have seen no issues with the Y6b either. I am however pretty religious about ensuring correct fit and cleanliness of the track. I model everything in Anyrail 5 and wipe down rails prior to every use. I remember reading about this issue but I have never actually seen it? I have only seen problems where the loco stops dead and that was due to the continuity of hastily laid or damaged track. Been a victim myself. I'm not sure what to tell you. I'll stick with what works and the new LCS stuff is really cool so I'm thinking the new layout will be all fastrack? Does anyone out there have a larger fastrack layout? Something like 300-350 sq ft or 500-600 ft of track? I want to run all the bells and whistles LCS, Wifi, Command Switches, and an ipad. Does this sound smart? I can't really decide myself.

Apparently, Rudy has been working overtime. Simple and compound chuffing too, thanks in part to our resident steam experts on this forum for pointing this out in regards to the prototype.

Y6b Whistle and VL BB Whistle

Looks and sounds Fantastic! You have a winner!  

I can do that next week unless someone beats me to it. 2171 is en route!

Would anyone care to measure the distance from the front of the first driver to the end of the last driver?  I have a "S" curve that limits my choice of engines. I would hate to purchase this beautiful engine and be stuck due to this "S curve". Thank you

The sounds are fantastic!!  Thanks for sharing the photographs!  Another great locomotive from Lionel!

got mine yesterday.just fill the stack,I think the lionel fluid works the best but I used a little mega-steam.it worked great out of the box but blow down the whistle hole and lean on it hard for a minute or two.good luck. 

Rboatertoo,

      I do not have this engine but do have two Legacy engines with smoking whistles. One an atlantic has two holes a larger hole where the whistle sits in and a smaller hole that the smoke comes out of. The smoke fluid goes in the smaller hole, remember smoke out fluid in.

     The other has a hole under the steam dome that has a slight opening on the side of the dome under the whistle that can not be removed from the dome. The one hole is bigger than the Atlantis holes but again the smoke comes out the hole so fluid in. The dome is removeable so you can put the fluid in.

     Neither video has a close up of the whistle but I think the Y6 has the two hole system.

JohnB

Did you read the instructions?

quote:

Call me strip but I couldn't a whistle hole. Location please

What are you trying to say?

This looks to be another Home Run for Lionel. Mine is in, made it to the basement, and is still in the Carton....Wednesday will be test run day.  I too like the Hooters Whistle and all the new toys Lionel comes up with. Thank You Lionel.....Happy Railroading

This engine is a home run i love mine.. On 0-80 it barely swings out..  So i had to try it on smaller track it ran on 0-64 gargraves flawless... Heres it running on 0-80

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFf1NZVf4dY

The smoke stack and the whistle have a common reservoir so filling the smoke stack with smoke fluid fills the whistle as well. No second fill hole for whistle. This is the same way the new AC-12 works. this is a great improvement and works well for both the Y6b and the AC-12. be careful not to over fill and blow into both the whistle and the smoke stack. The first several runs on my Y6b cause quite a bit of condensing of the smoke fluid on the whistle hole which will block the whistle smoke from coming out and will exit from the bottom of the engine. This looks like the under side is smoking. Just blow down the whistle hole to clear the fluid and whip down the boiler if needed. After a few runs it settled down and is flawless now.

Looks great!

Enjoyed the video. Awesome whistle, great sounds and smoke. Hope all that have this engine enjoy it for many years!

Just picked up my Y6B today and by far, it's the most awesome locomotive I own!! Out of the box... excellent! I may not be an expert, but based on the videos I own, the HOOTER WHISTLE is dead on! Also, I love how the chuff rate shifts as the locomotive pics up speed. Now I think I need to own 2 so I can double head!

Video to come,

Can't wait to get mine. I haVe the 3rdRail Y6a. Anxious to double head these workHorses!

I own a JLC Y6b and now the Legacy version, can I double head them?

Anyone still looking for one of these?.....

Good question... and I don't have a definitive answer for you... some would say "no", others would say YMMV.  I don't have an active layout right now, so I can't say for sure... but I did ask this question on the forum -- albeit at a general level -- many months ago, and the general consensus of answers seem to indicate folks ran into issues when double-heading one Legacy locomotive with one TMCC locomotive.

Should be interesting to see what real-world answers we get regarding the Y6b.  If the answer is "Yes, a Legacy/TMCC lash-up works OK", then the TMCC versions are out their at an excellent price in the neighborhood of $800 new or like-new.  Of course, there are also some sellers still hoping to get $1,400+ for a TMCC Y6b, but that's wishful thinking even on a good day now that the newer Legacy version has Legacy electronics, whistle-steam, and accurate simple/compound chuff audio (which was reportedly incorrectly reversed on the TMCC version).

Bottom line... if the Legacy/TMCC lash-up of the Y6b works operationally-speaking (i.e., the two locomotives don't fight each other), then it's an economical way to double-head them rather than forking out $1400+ for two Legacy steamers.  Although you might need to lower the volume of the TMCC unit significantly -- or just turn sounds off completely on the TMCC unit -- due to the incorrect chuff audio on the TMCC Y6b as compared to the more accurate sounds on the Legacy version.

Proceed with caution, and let us know how it works if you're able to try it.

David

Depends... how do you want to run them. Assuming in the best way possible as a lash up, NO. Lionel made this youtube video on how to use Legacy in a lashup. Straight from Lionel... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...-4z6AZ4&index=29

You might be able to assign both with the same ID with a generic TMCC steam module but may not work and performance would suck. And then there is always conventional, which is completely worthless when you have legacy available. Here is Mike Reagan with more on TMCC and Legacy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?...DIQNtI24mMX6_-4z6AZ4

Thanks for the replies. I may do a little experimenting after a little more research or suggestions from here. I have watched the video suggested by Winston but will need to follow a little more closely. I don't think I'd be interested in running conventionally though.

Anyone interested in a JLC Y6B?

Joe