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I’ve been tinkering with the Lionel 17600 NYC for a number of years. I model the B&A and Rutland and finally after 30 plus years some new custom run models are becoming available. Beth at PDT is offering a Rutland with the same number I have already done. So this one was heading for the workbench and I figured I’d try all the things I liked about my other versions and combine them all into one model. Each version I did  I’d try a different detailing idea. I use the stock chassis with some metal support to stiffen it up, homemade aluminum Kadee mounts, Tomar Adlake LED lamps, a different smokestack and Atlas trucks. The stock body even though it features some molded in grabs. They look close to scale in size and they don’t bother me that they aren’t separately applied. What I always thought was the biggest issue looks wise compared to what’s being built today was the end railings, the molded in roof walks and the stamped steel ladder.
The roof walks were sanded flush and some Atlas boxcar ones replaced them. Prototypically they should have 4 boards. I didn’t want to mess with the cupola and it was easier to go with 3. The end railings were a funky way oversized shape and the plastic representation of a chain was molded in with them. I used Grab irons from Tichy Train Group, 032 phosphor bronze wire from them also to make the new railings. They are a snug fit in I believe 1/16 square brass hollow stock. You need to solder the railings into some short pieces which allows them to fit the factory holes.

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Wood boards were added to the platform and some chain I’ve had forever. The new ladder was from Precision Scale along with the new brake wheel.

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Side by side comparison. I did add a more scale chain to the other version. I found looking at photos. The Rutland numbered the cabooses over the door.

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A fun project and these cars can be had pretty cheap these days. Truth be told. Once on the layout and trains are moving. None of this is all that noticeable. But you know it’s there.

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Good work Dave. Railings and grabs are where these fall down. Not sure about other roads but the NYC versions should have ladder railings stop at the roofline.
I find it a bit ironic that this is the only 3 rail NYC style caboose with truss rods which is correct. The only  other 19000 models that have them are two rail brass models or kits.

Pete

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Well. I’m a glutton for these things. The Rutland early on had 4 cabin [they referred to them as vans] windows per side. They also featured a slightly taller cupola. I saw some arch bar, leaf spring trucks on the bay. 3D printed and reasonably priced. I had plenty of parts on hand to attempt one. Went pretty much by pictures and what could be done within reason of what I had to work with. The cupola and stack are from an old Ambroid kit. Fit the shell perfect as far as contour. I carefully cut out the 4th window and added one from Scale City.

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The cupola is held on with a couple of studs and a piece of wood to pinch it to the body. The prototype had only 2 side windows.  I thought of removing the middle window and use one of the cut pieces as a new divider. Didn’t really want to mess with an old casting.

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Added some old Weaver along with some Atlas and scrap styrene roof walks. The prototype Rutland and NYC [ I think]  had 4 running boards not 3. They were glued over the stock boards with just a slight overhang.

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The top rung of the ladder was removed and I think I’ll stick with it. I’ll add some more scale like handrails like my above post. The available trucks that caught my eye and was the start of the project. Do work fine and the car tracks well. I used Atlas brass bushings that were a tight press fit in the journal box. The side frames could be a whisker closer together or the bushings shimmed a bit. A lot of end play but they stay in place. The trucks just seem to long to my eye. Hopefully when painted black it will be less noticeable. Not really sure as to what they are a model of as far as prototype. It looks like I can add an Atlas roller fairly easily and actually use the ground strap from the Lionel truck after a couple of holes are drilled. It will wipe the backside of the wheels.

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I’ll start to get some paint on it. I can see a few things that have to be cleaned up. Amazing what you see looking at pictures you don’t see at the workbench.

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