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Lionel updated their shipping schedule again today. The Heavy Mikes' delivery date changed from Sept 2014 to after the new year.

 

I know .... these things happen all the time, not just Lionel, and we have other toys to play with ..... but, still a bummer. This Mikado was the most expensive train thing I've ever bought, I no longer have any other steam engines (other than the Christmas layout PW 2046), and I had to sell other things to be able to buy it.

 

Life .... rolls on.

 

 

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EBT Jim, I understand your disappointment concerning Lionel's shipping schedule, but

there is good News at the End of the Tunnel, it will be worth the wait. This being a newly tooled model by Lionel is probably why the delay. Running this in Legacy should be Loads of Fun. I have the L&N ordered.  

Now, has anyone visited the Lionel Booth at YORK and seen the engine? They should be able to share lots of news about upcoming shipments.

Happy Railroading

Originally Posted by bill pierce:

question catalog says new hvy mikados are 30" long

i have one of the scale mikados issued a couple of years ago and its 21" long

hvy mikados are 36 ft longer than what i have???

I'm 100% sure this was a misprint discussed long ago when the engines were first announced in April - they should be 20" instead of 30".

 

Personally, I'm waiting for the New York Central one to roll out, but I'm a very patient person under normal circumstances.

 

As far as the engine itself so far, the engine's unpainted pilot prototype was on display at York next to the gold Polar Express, and I'm sure that there are plenty who were able to talk with Lionel's people can answer some questions here.

Jan-15... humm...

 

My L&N railroad is patiently waiting (not!) the arrival of its heavy Mikado.

More line work for the Yard Goat.

 

This why I don't pre-order. It does nothing to meet my immediate gratification needs. It's sort of like asking a good looking girl out, and she says, "Sure. I'll need your credit card to assure you're good for the date. We'll make the date 6 months from today, but if something come up it might be a few months later." With that she gives me a smile and off she goes. And there I stand with a blank stare.

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I can wait for the final shipping date.  I want the engine BUT I realy don't NEED it.  So when it comes, my money is ready for it.  BUT, I want the Milwaukee Road version, not some obscure RR that only had a couple in real life.  So, maybe I can expect my engine in about a year or so.  Hopefully, I'll still be around to enjoy it.

 

(the Milwaukee Road version is not even in their catalog, as yet, even though the Milwaukee had more of this class of engine than any other RR.)

 

Paul Fischer

Amen. I cannot understand why Lionel chose to introduce the USRA Heavy Mikado without a Milwaukee Road version, when the Milwaukee took delivery of 100 of the original 233 engines built for USRA. On the other hand, maybe the Milwaukee being in a later tranche will mean a lesser chance of bugs. 
 
Originally Posted by fisch330:

I can wait for the final shipping date.  I want the engine BUT I realy don't NEED it.  So when it comes, my money is ready for it.  BUT, I want the Milwaukee Road version, not some obscure RR that only had a couple in real life.  So, maybe I can expect my engine in about a year or so.  Hopefully, I'll still be around to enjoy it.

 

(the Milwaukee Road version is not even in their catalog, as yet, even though the Milwaukee had more of this class of engine than any other RR.)

 

Paul Fischer

 

I did a little research on L&N Mikados. Their J-4's were the ones that included #1757 (#1750 - 1769), which Lionel has numbered their heavy Mikado.

Though I could not find an overall length, I found the overall wheelbase (engine and tender) to be 71.79 feet. That should make the overall length in the 83 ft area. So the Lionel Heavy Mikado should be near the 21" mark.

 

Originally Posted by Dewey Trogdon:

Schematic drawing in "Southern Steam Power" shows Southern's Ms-4 Heavy Mikado [engine 54' and tender 29'] as 83' long. The USRA design was the Ms-4's prototype.

 

The heavy mike was Southern's mainline freight locomotive for 30 years,  1923-53.

 

Is Lionel importing a Southern Ry version of their heavy model??

As far as the catalogs state, Lionel is not making a Southern roadname yet, but there is heavy promises that Lionel will be offering it in many more roadnames in the near future.

I was just looking at the Nassau site, new MTH catalogue, and it occurs to me that

this delay in my L&N Lionel Mike makes me more likely to reserve one of the new

MTH B&A J2 Hudsons...thanks, Lionel! (But, Mr Wolf, I remain disappointed that

your NYC J1/J2 smokebox door remains incorrectly contoured.)

 

Such a Byzantine hobby; if I do the above, it may actually put both locos - and payments

due - closer together. Somebody help me. (And, of course, can I resist a future Southern version of the Heavy Mike? Not bloody likely, as they say Over There.) 

Last edited by D500
Since the chassis and tender are the same as the Lionel USRA light Mikado, which is built on K-Line tooling, the length should be the same as the Lionel and K-Line light Mikados. For both prototype and model, the only difference between heavy and light is the boiler. 30" has got to be a typo. 
 
Originally Posted by bill pierce:

How long are the Lionel heavy Mikado`s???

E Mailed Lionel ,no answer,if as shown in catalog and on Lionel

website its 30" long it will not work for me

So how long is it??

 

I wouldn't get to 'wrapped around the axle' on catalog locomotive lengths-the catalogs also says a BB is the same length as a Challenger 

 

I'm not a math major but know that isn't possible.  And since I own them both, I know they aren't the same length.

 

The folks making/proof reading the catalogs are human and make mistakes like many of us. Especially me, just ask my Ol' Lady!!!!

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Originally Posted by D500:

I was just looking at the Nassau site, new MTH catalogue, and it occurs to me that

this delay in my L&N Lionel Mike makes me more likely to reserve one of the new

MTH B&A J2 Hudsons...thanks, Lionel! (But, Mr Wolf, I remain disappointed that

your NYC J1/J2 smokebox door remains incorrectly contoured.)

 

 

I wouldn't assume anything until you see the model. They used images of the Dreyfuss with PT tender from the previous release. The current release has better detail and paint worthy of the best 2 rail brass offerings.

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